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One claim I've seen is that men commit more violent crime because it's more common for a man to be physically stronger than another person, while the rates of n

One claim I've seen is that men commit more violent crime because it's more common for a man to be physically stronger than another person, while the rates of non-physial violence are much closer across gender boundaries.

xp84 4y ago
> non-physial violence Come again? What's non-physical violence? Mental violence? Writing someone a mean letter?
- DaveExeter 4y ago
  Proxy violence. https://youtu.be/W0FByIEijXI?t=22 https://youtu.be/W0FByIEijXI?t=22
- icefo 4y ago
  You can inflict extreme pain on someone by just talking without raising a finger nor your voice. Especially if this person cares about you. It can be voluntary or not but dismissing it like that seems strange to me. It's not because it doesn't leave physical scars that it can't cause trauma.
- honkler 4y ago
  "Stab the body and it heals, but injure the heart and the wound lasts a lifetime."
belorn 4y ago
That is one theory I also suspect but I have yet to see a study that look at physically strength during conflicts between people. If it is true then among homosexual relationships the person with less physical strength should be detectable when looking at who is the attacker and who is the victim. It might also be non-linear. A person who has half the strength of their partner might be significant less likely to be the attacker than if a person has just 10% less physical strength. It would be an interesting read.
- Llamamoe 4y ago
  I think things change a lot when a dynamic is already established, and involves boundaries being pushed and probed, rather than being "crimes of opportunity" so to call them.
  - belorn 4y ago
    Based on the data it seems that the rate of conflict is a human constant. Two women living together will have a lower average absolute strength than two men living together, but from the data the rate of domestic abuse is identical. Similar, the strength difference in a heterosexual relationship is going to be greater than homosexual, and yet again the rate of domestic abuse is again identical to homosexual relationships. It seems that the only thing that changes with gender is that when there is a conflict and it "eventually" develops into physical attacks, which is a strange concept in itself, the person who will be the attacker (or at least be found guilty in courts) will be significantly more likely to be a man if the relationship is heterosexual.

xp84 4y ago

> non-physial violence Come again? What's non-physical violence? Mental violence? Writing someone a mean letter?

DaveExeter 4y ago
Proxy violence. https://youtu.be/W0FByIEijXI?t=22 https://youtu.be/W0FByIEijXI?t=22
icefo 4y ago
You can inflict extreme pain on someone by just talking without raising a finger nor your voice. Especially if this person cares about you. It can be voluntary or not but dismissing it like that seems strange to me. It's not because it doesn't leave physical scars that it can't cause trauma.
honkler 4y ago
"Stab the body and it heals, but injure the heart and the wound lasts a lifetime."

belorn 4y ago

That is one theory I also suspect but I have yet to see a study that look at physically strength during conflicts between people. If it is true then among homosexual relationships the person with less physical strength should be detectable when looking at who is the attacker and who is the victim. It might also be non-linear. A person who has half the strength of their partner might be significant less likely to be the attacker than if a person has just 10% less physical strength. It would be an interesting read.

Llamamoe 4y ago
I think things change a lot when a dynamic is already established, and involves boundaries being pushed and probed, rather than being "crimes of opportunity" so to call them.
- belorn 4y ago
  Based on the data it seems that the rate of conflict is a human constant. Two women living together will have a lower average absolute strength than two men living together, but from the data the rate of domestic abuse is identical. Similar, the strength difference in a heterosexual relationship is going to be greater than homosexual, and yet again the rate of domestic abuse is again identical to homosexual relationships. It seems that the only thing that changes with gender is that when there is a conflict and it "eventually" develops into physical attacks, which is a strange concept in itself, the person who will be the attacker (or at least be found guilty in courts) will be significantly more likely to be a man if the relationship is heterosexual.