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Are you sure you’ve got the cause and effect there? So let’s say hypothetically Apple did implement RCS support in iMessage thus introducing a fourth messaging

by SllX 4y ago

Are you sure you’ve got the cause and effect there? So let’s say hypothetically Apple did implement RCS support in iMessage thus introducing a fourth messaging protocol into the mix (SMS, MMS, iMessage) and we just ignore that it’s more “standard” than standard and is probably only properly implemented by exactly Google anyway, and we disregard the dozens of cross platform alternatives to RCS, SMS and iMessage: why wouldn’t Apple just make the bubbles for RCS yellow or orange or red or something? The actual visual style is a holdover from iChat which you could visually theme (and those were options) and bringing blue bubbles in was intended to visually distinguish which protocol you were sending a message down the virtual wire on so you knew not to try and use iMessage features with someone that could only receive SMS and MMS messages. Is the concern the color of the bubbles, or is the concern the lack of RCS?

luma 4y ago
> Is the concern the color of the bubbles, or is the concern the lack of RCS? The lack of compliance and interop with internationally accepted standards by Apple, which should be of surprise to exactly nobody. It's kinda their thing.
- SllX 4y ago
  “Internationally accepted” in context means other corporations and a telecoms body governed by or influenced if you prefer mostly those corporations. It’s a spin that only makes sense if you ignore what messaging looks like on a modern smartphone in most of the world: apps, most of which are not iMessage and used a lot more than iMessage, RCS or SMS. The blue bubble/green bubble campaign by Google is largely a U.S.-centric PR campaign trying to influence specifically American iPhone customers. You need a better selling point.
  - luma 4y ago
    Hey you finally arrived at the answer: Apple's solution is Apples' solution, not a standard. Google's solution is the industry, internationally accepted standard and no quotes are needed around that statement. The same standards bodies that formalized SMS did the same with RCS. Everyone except Apple is on board. You can try all you want to spin this as Apple being in the right, but it's Apple vs everybody on this one.

by SllX 4y ago

luma 4y ago

> Is the concern the color of the bubbles, or is the concern the lack of RCS? The lack of compliance and interop with internationally accepted standards by Apple, which should be of surprise to exactly nobody. It's kinda their thing.

SllX 4y ago
“Internationally accepted” in context means other corporations and a telecoms body governed by or influenced if you prefer mostly those corporations. It’s a spin that only makes sense if you ignore what messaging looks like on a modern smartphone in most of the world: apps, most of which are not iMessage and used a lot more than iMessage, RCS or SMS. The blue bubble/green bubble campaign by Google is largely a U.S.-centric PR campaign trying to influence specifically American iPhone customers. You need a better selling point.
- luma 4y ago
  Hey you finally arrived at the answer: Apple's solution is Apples' solution, not a standard. Google's solution is the industry, internationally accepted standard and no quotes are needed around that statement. The same standards bodies that formalized SMS did the same with RCS. Everyone except Apple is on board. You can try all you want to spin this as Apple being in the right, but it's Apple vs everybody on this one.