If this was the point you were trying to make, then I would agree. And frankly, I truly believe the vast majority of HN users are not hateful despite that it is

If this was the point you were trying to make, then I would agree. And frankly, I truly believe the vast majority of HN users are not hateful despite that it is clear there is an increasing perception that it is. Usually when I flag obvious transphobia and hatred, it is already downvoted to the minimum score. I would hope anyone here would view suicide of any kind as a preventable tragedy. We've seen it happen here before plenty of times to people I'd like to think were highly respected by HN. Personally I would not take the karma hit too seriously. Like any community with voting, the votes are ascribed more meaning than deserved. People vote mostly out of irrational emotion. I will close with this: if this was the point you were making I hope you can understand why I didn't get it. The first post seems like you wanted this removed, which is a reasonable perspective, but the best way to get an article removed is probably to flag and email staff. If you don't think this should be removed, or at least are neutral about it, I think the best we can do is at least flag the off-topic comments that made Foone hate this place in the first place. I really hate this conundrum, because Foone makes amazingly good content, and I genuinely, truly believe that it finds it's way here out of virtue that it's just that good, not out of malice. Unfortunately, as it always is, a minority of terrible people are always out to ruin nice things. Oh well. I should leave this thread too, at this point.