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Sometimes When people learn that those whose work/passions they find interesting absolutely despise them & their ideologies Something clicks in their head. “W

by s5300 4y ago

Sometimes When people learn that those whose work/passions they find interesting absolutely despise them & their ideologies Something clicks in their head. “Why does somebody who leads such a cool life/does cool things not like me/my views?” In this case, we’re talking about transphobia. If one person who’s transphobic goes on to find out that Foone, who does cool/interesting enough things that they regularly make it to the front page of HN, is trans - they may finally realize “maybe I’m the bad guy” & change for the better. This, in theory, leads to less hatred of trans people- which, in theory, leads to less trans suicides/murders. This probably wasn’t the explanation you were after, nor is it amazingly well articulated, but it’s all I can offer you in this instance. Not going to reply to anything past this in the thread as a whole - I have posted what I wanted and spent my karma.

jchw 4y ago
If this was the point you were trying to make, then I would agree. And frankly, I truly believe the vast majority of HN users are not hateful despite that it is clear there is an increasing perception that it is. Usually when I flag obvious transphobia and hatred, it is already downvoted to the minimum score. I would hope anyone here would view suicide of any kind as a preventable tragedy. We've seen it happen here before plenty of times to people I'd like to think were highly respected by HN. Personally I would not take the karma hit too seriously. Like any community with voting, the votes are ascribed more meaning than deserved. People vote mostly out of irrational emotion. I will close with this: if this was the point you were making I hope you can understand why I didn't get it. The first post seems like you wanted this removed, which is a reasonable perspective, but the best way to get an article removed is probably to flag and email staff. If you don't think this should be removed, or at least are neutral about it, I think the best we can do is at least flag the off-topic comments that made Foone hate this place in the first place. I really hate this conundrum, because Foone makes amazingly good content, and I genuinely, truly believe that it finds it's way here out of virtue that it's just that good, not out of malice. Unfortunately, as it always is, a minority of terrible people are always out to ruin nice things. Oh well. I should leave this thread too, at this point.

by s5300 4y ago

jchw 4y ago

If this was the point you were trying to make, then I would agree. And frankly, I truly believe the vast majority of HN users are not hateful despite that it is clear there is an increasing perception that it is. Usually when I flag obvious transphobia and hatred, it is already downvoted to the minimum score. I would hope anyone here would view suicide of any kind as a preventable tragedy. We've seen it happen here before plenty of times to people I'd like to think were highly respected by HN. Personally I would not take the karma hit too seriously. Like any community with voting, the votes are ascribed more meaning than deserved. People vote mostly out of irrational emotion. I will close with this: if this was the point you were making I hope you can understand why I didn't get it. The first post seems like you wanted this removed, which is a reasonable perspective, but the best way to get an article removed is probably to flag and email staff. If you don't think this should be removed, or at least are neutral about it, I think the best we can do is at least flag the off-topic comments that made Foone hate this place in the first place. I really hate this conundrum, because Foone makes amazingly good content, and I genuinely, truly believe that it finds it's way here out of virtue that it's just that good, not out of malice. Unfortunately, as it always is, a minority of terrible people are always out to ruin nice things. Oh well. I should leave this thread too, at this point.