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If you have the time to watch it, this Munk Debate on "Don't Trust the Mainstream Media" is a good articulation of both sides. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

If you have the time to watch it, this Munk Debate on "Don't Trust the Mainstream Media" is a good articulation of both sides. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vkgROIINEs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vkgROIINEs At the beginning, the audience was evenly split on the motion (48/52). 82% said they were open to changing their minds over the course of the debate. At the end, audience was 67/33 (!!) in favor of the motion, apparently one of the largest swings in Munk debate history. The heart of it is a cabal who think they are "right", feeling no compunction about using whatever means necessary to make everyone else submit to their obviously correct worldview. The Twitter Files came out after this debate, but oh boy the rout would have been even sweeter had that been out at the time. Murray and Taibbi were talking straight. Gladwell and Goldberg were dissembling and side-stepping and strawmanning. I think it was that intellectual dishonesty that the audience ultimately picked up on.

0xbadcafebee 4y ago
I actually found it inarticulate. There's really only one thing to consider: can you trust what the media says? The fact is you have no idea if what they're reporting is true or false, as they freely admit they make mistakes and sometimes report false stories, and their viewership has a 95% partisan slant. So you have no idea if what you're reading next is true or not. Therefore, you can't trust it. Putting trust in the media is akin to blind belief. Without a rigidly documented process and chain of evidence in full view of the public (like, you know, a science) it's all just "claims". No wonder it's devolved into partisanship. Politics is a 21st century religion, and the media its gospel choir.
hotpotamus 4y ago
I can't say I've met many humans who ever think they are "wrong". A few will claim that they are open to changing their minds about their beliefs, but I suspect they are mostly deluding themselves. I am no different.

0xbadcafebee 4y ago

I actually found it inarticulate. There's really only one thing to consider: can you trust what the media says? The fact is you have no idea if what they're reporting is true or false, as they freely admit they make mistakes and sometimes report false stories, and their viewership has a 95% partisan slant. So you have no idea if what you're reading next is true or not. Therefore, you can't trust it. Putting trust in the media is akin to blind belief. Without a rigidly documented process and chain of evidence in full view of the public (like, you know, a science) it's all just "claims". No wonder it's devolved into partisanship. Politics is a 21st century religion, and the media its gospel choir.

hotpotamus 4y ago

I can't say I've met many humans who ever think they are "wrong". A few will claim that they are open to changing their minds about their beliefs, but I suspect they are mostly deluding themselves. I am no different.