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"Tape Gateway supports all leading backup applications" Only huge companies like Amazon can be this dumb. They don't even mention tar or pax, the two most comm

"Tape Gateway supports all leading backup applications" Only huge companies like Amazon can be this dumb. They don't even mention tar or pax, the two most common tape backup applications. Also, how will this magic Amazon "Tape Gateway" back up petabytes over slow links? There are many data heavy businesses that don't necessarily have tons of Internet bandwidth. Fully saturating a 100 Mbps outgoing connection will only get you 1 TB a day, so what happens when you have a tape's worth of new data daily and an already heavily used Internet connection?

jaywalk 4y ago
> Also, how will this magic Amazon "Tape Gateway" back up petabytes over slow links? Easy: it won't. If you have more data than bandwidth, you won't use this service. Not sure why you seem to think otherwise.
- brudgers 4y ago
  Amazon has a service to send a semi-trailer to the loading dock of your data warehouse, so you can forklift in pallets of physical media. Then hauls it all away for ingestion into its cloud. Or, if it will fit in your station wagon, you can haul your data down the highway to one of Amazon's clouds. Or put it in a box and ship it Fedex.
  - luhn 4y ago
    That's not quite how it works. Amazon will send you various storage appliances (including a semi hauling a 45ft shipping container full of hard drives), which you connect to your network, upload your data, and send it back to them. They don't accept pallets of arbitrary media devices. https://aws.amazon.com/snow/ https://aws.amazon.com/snow/
    - brudgers 4y ago
      Thanks. I started from Tanenbaum’s hurtling station wagon and used my poetic license without worrying too much that the parent commentor would buy a forklift before talking to AWS sales.
sithadmin 4y ago
You upgrade your WAN circuits to meet your needs, or you suffer the consequences. Simple as that. If you can't upgrade the WAN circuits, you stick to local tape libraries.
felixgallo 4y ago
click on the 'AWS snowball with tape gateway' tab.
unethical_ban 4y ago
No organization considering this use case will have a 100Mbps line for it.

jaywalk 4y ago

> Also, how will this magic Amazon "Tape Gateway" back up petabytes over slow links? Easy: it won't. If you have more data than bandwidth, you won't use this service. Not sure why you seem to think otherwise.

brudgers 4y ago
Amazon has a service to send a semi-trailer to the loading dock of your data warehouse, so you can forklift in pallets of physical media. Then hauls it all away for ingestion into its cloud. Or, if it will fit in your station wagon, you can haul your data down the highway to one of Amazon's clouds. Or put it in a box and ship it Fedex.
- luhn 4y ago
  That's not quite how it works. Amazon will send you various storage appliances (including a semi hauling a 45ft shipping container full of hard drives), which you connect to your network, upload your data, and send it back to them. They don't accept pallets of arbitrary media devices. https://aws.amazon.com/snow/ https://aws.amazon.com/snow/
  - brudgers 4y ago
    Thanks. I started from Tanenbaum’s hurtling station wagon and used my poetic license without worrying too much that the parent commentor would buy a forklift before talking to AWS sales.

sithadmin 4y ago

You upgrade your WAN circuits to meet your needs, or you suffer the consequences. Simple as that. If you can't upgrade the WAN circuits, you stick to local tape libraries.

felixgallo 4y ago

click on the 'AWS snowball with tape gateway' tab.

unethical_ban 4y ago

No organization considering this use case will have a 100Mbps line for it.