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In the future AI or Software developers might need their own Federalist Society.

by eunos 4y ago

flangola7 4y ago
FedSoc is a poison to democracy and sensible society, I can't imagine having another one.
- prometheus76 4y ago
  Democracy is the tyranny of the majority, which sounds great until something you hold dear becomes a minority opinion and you become a criminal.
  - manuelabeledo 4y ago
    The opposite is the tyranny of the minority, which is even worse for a country as a whole. I’m not sure what your point is here, though. There are three governmental branches in the US precisely because of this. If anything, the judicial branch is the one that presents a more imminent risk to minorities.
  - flangola7 4y ago
    What are you proposing? Democracy isn't perfect but it's the best political system we have come up with to date.
    - prometheus76 4y ago
      It's great, as long as you are in the majority. But if you're in the 49% (or less) category, then it is tyrannical and untenable. I don't know if you have a family, but if you do, do you put all of your decisions as a parent to a vote?
      - flangola7 4y ago
        Sure, but you still haven't explained what the alternative is that you are proposing or how it would be better.
        prometheus76 4y ago
        I never proposed an alternative. I was simply pointing out the problems with pure democracy. The critique comes from Plato. But since you asked, I'm a monarchist.
manuelabeledo 4y ago
You mean that AI would strive to create a capitalist libertarian utopia, where healthcare is a privilege, guns an absolute right, abortion a crime, and dark money in politics widespread? Sounds like we are half-way there, anyway.
- eunos 4y ago
  I'm thinking about AI that doesn't automatically anti conservative.
  - manuelabeledo 4y ago
    And a reactionary, far-right lobby inside the judicial branch is the best example you could come up with? Let’s not forget that the current SCOTUS has six Federalist Society current or former members, of which at least one, Thomas, has already noted that they should overturn rulings like those concerning access to contraceptives, marriage equality, or anti-sodomy laws. Regardless, I would be willing to say that the issue with AI being “anti conservative”, if that is a thing at all, is the fact that modern republicanism has been reactionary against every single social advancement since pretty much the 70s, and has not moved forward much ever since.
    - eunos 4y ago
      > best example you could come up with Well they are most renown (thanks SCOTUS!) for non-American me so there's that. Also deliberately 'censor' Trump vis-a-vis Biden (comically example aside) seems not healthy.
      - manuelabeledo 4y ago
        It feels like you are just rambling. Who has censored what? And why would it matter in the context of the study, anyway? The issues with the Federalist Society and modern conservatism are very real, very specific, and have nothing to do with Trump, who is just a symptom.

In the future AI or Software developers might need their own Federalist Society.

by eunos 4y ago

In the future AI or Software developers might need their own Federalist Society.

flangola7 4y ago

FedSoc is a poison to democracy and sensible society, I can't imagine having another one.

prometheus76 4y ago
Democracy is the tyranny of the majority, which sounds great until something you hold dear becomes a minority opinion and you become a criminal.
- manuelabeledo 4y ago
  The opposite is the tyranny of the minority, which is even worse for a country as a whole. I’m not sure what your point is here, though. There are three governmental branches in the US precisely because of this. If anything, the judicial branch is the one that presents a more imminent risk to minorities.
- flangola7 4y ago
  What are you proposing? Democracy isn't perfect but it's the best political system we have come up with to date.
  - prometheus76 4y ago
    It's great, as long as you are in the majority. But if you're in the 49% (or less) category, then it is tyrannical and untenable. I don't know if you have a family, but if you do, do you put all of your decisions as a parent to a vote?
    - flangola7 4y ago
      Sure, but you still haven't explained what the alternative is that you are proposing or how it would be better.
      - prometheus76 4y ago
        I never proposed an alternative. I was simply pointing out the problems with pure democracy. The critique comes from Plato. But since you asked, I'm a monarchist.

manuelabeledo 4y ago

You mean that AI would strive to create a capitalist libertarian utopia, where healthcare is a privilege, guns an absolute right, abortion a crime, and dark money in politics widespread? Sounds like we are half-way there, anyway.

eunos 4y ago
I'm thinking about AI that doesn't automatically anti conservative.
- manuelabeledo 4y ago
  And a reactionary, far-right lobby inside the judicial branch is the best example you could come up with? Let’s not forget that the current SCOTUS has six Federalist Society current or former members, of which at least one, Thomas, has already noted that they should overturn rulings like those concerning access to contraceptives, marriage equality, or anti-sodomy laws. Regardless, I would be willing to say that the issue with AI being “anti conservative”, if that is a thing at all, is the fact that modern republicanism has been reactionary against every single social advancement since pretty much the 70s, and has not moved forward much ever since.
  - eunos 4y ago
    > best example you could come up with Well they are most renown (thanks SCOTUS!) for non-American me so there's that. Also deliberately 'censor' Trump vis-a-vis Biden (comically example aside) seems not healthy.
    - manuelabeledo 4y ago
      It feels like you are just rambling. Who has censored what? And why would it matter in the context of the study, anyway? The issues with the Federalist Society and modern conservatism are very real, very specific, and have nothing to do with Trump, who is just a symptom.