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>n from bloated batteries within the year. Is this from the battery being on the charger constantly? I remember having a similar problem years ago. I thought m

>n from bloated batteries within the year. Is this from the battery being on the charger constantly? I remember having a similar problem years ago. I thought most devices now would manage charging by letting it drain a bit automatically. At the time though they didn't so I for my continually connected devices I just used simple plug timers that cut it off for a few hours a couple times a day.

IronHerald 4y ago
There's also the possibility of using Advanced Charging Controller - though it requires root. Essentially you can set it up so when the battery reaches eg. 100% it stops charging, and resumes only once it reaches eg. 15%. Surprisingly the Android devices that I have still don't ever stop charging on their own, constantly keeping 100%. [Advanced Charging Controller (ACC)](https://github.com/VR-25/acc https://github.com/VR-25/acc) [BU-808: How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries](https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-...)
- dementik 4y ago
  I do this with my tablet: It is running Fully Kiosk Browser, reporting to Home Assistant. When device reaches 20%, it turns on Oneplug usb relay and turns it off at 80%.
- wkat4242 4y ago
  You can do that, but you still have a battery that will eventually become a problem. I prefer my wired devices not having a potential bomb on board :) As I generally use old devices with worn batteries this is likely to become a problem much sooner, and much less of an issue to stick a screwdriver in and start tearing parts out of the device. Of course you're not going to do this to your brand new tablet under warranty. However, doing that you do have the benefit of having "UPS" protection of course (how much depends on the charge cycle). In my case this isn't really a problem because if my power is down there is not much in my home left to control that still works. My method has some drawbacks too - it looks bad (though it can be mitigated with a 3D printed enclosure) and sometimes stability may suffer, because tablets and phones use their battery to absorb performance peaks which require high power drain. The DC-DC converter will not live up to the same peak capacity. But generally I have not really seen many issues in practice. The converters stay cool and the tablets don't crash. I think it's because the workloads as a control tablet is not super heavy either. One of the main things that really peaks a lot in phones is the mobile (4G/5G) radio when it transmits and of course I keep them in airplane mode in this usecase.
wkat4242 4y ago
Yes, and yes laptops prevent this now. My lenovo thinkpad actually stops charging and lets itself discharge all the way to 20% before charging again. Mobiles and tablets generally don't do this because they are almost always used in a mobile manner. With the exception of the special battery protection in iOS that was mentioned in the article.

IronHerald 4y ago

There's also the possibility of using Advanced Charging Controller - though it requires root. Essentially you can set it up so when the battery reaches eg. 100% it stops charging, and resumes only once it reaches eg. 15%. Surprisingly the Android devices that I have still don't ever stop charging on their own, constantly keeping 100%. [Advanced Charging Controller (ACC)](https://github.com/VR-25/acc https://github.com/VR-25/acc) [BU-808: How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries](https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-...)

dementik 4y ago
I do this with my tablet: It is running Fully Kiosk Browser, reporting to Home Assistant. When device reaches 20%, it turns on Oneplug usb relay and turns it off at 80%.
wkat4242 4y ago
You can do that, but you still have a battery that will eventually become a problem. I prefer my wired devices not having a potential bomb on board :) As I generally use old devices with worn batteries this is likely to become a problem much sooner, and much less of an issue to stick a screwdriver in and start tearing parts out of the device. Of course you're not going to do this to your brand new tablet under warranty. However, doing that you do have the benefit of having "UPS" protection of course (how much depends on the charge cycle). In my case this isn't really a problem because if my power is down there is not much in my home left to control that still works. My method has some drawbacks too - it looks bad (though it can be mitigated with a 3D printed enclosure) and sometimes stability may suffer, because tablets and phones use their battery to absorb performance peaks which require high power drain. The DC-DC converter will not live up to the same peak capacity. But generally I have not really seen many issues in practice. The converters stay cool and the tablets don't crash. I think it's because the workloads as a control tablet is not super heavy either. One of the main things that really peaks a lot in phones is the mobile (4G/5G) radio when it transmits and of course I keep them in airplane mode in this usecase.

wkat4242 4y ago

Yes, and yes laptops prevent this now. My lenovo thinkpad actually stops charging and lets itself discharge all the way to 20% before charging again. Mobiles and tablets generally don't do this because they are almost always used in a mobile manner. With the exception of the special battery protection in iOS that was mentioned in the article.