I had a horror of meeting some. Those can be, basically, put into two categories: 1) completely brainwashed (engineers aren't immune to that, unfortuntely), 2)

I had a horror of meeting some. Those can be, basically, put into two categories: 1) completely brainwashed (engineers aren't immune to that, unfortuntely), 2) drowning in regret and alcohol (being hostages of the situation).