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Setup Home Assistant, and only get devices that are 100% local control! There are fairly reasonable options for this. I have a couple devices/services where I

Setup Home Assistant, and only get devices that are 100% local control! There are fairly reasonable options for this. I have a couple devices/services where I haven't been able to find good local only or where I find utility in the cloud connectedness, but that's very much the exception than the rule.

wil421 4y ago
Homebridge plus Apple Home in my opinion is much better than home assistant. If you’re android based or have really complicated automations I could see why home assistant would be better. Home assistant’s lack of compatibility with quite a few brands made me run Homebridge and home assistant together which defeats the purpose of HA.
- noodlesUK 4y ago
  I'm curious which devices you have that are supported by home bridge but not home assistant. I've had nothing but success using home assistant.
  - wil421 4y ago
    This was over a year ago. Wyze and HA were having spats over API access. Unifi did not have a plug-in and I ended up having to install Homebridge.
    - bmurphy1976 4y ago
      Can't speak for Unifi but the Wyze support is pretty dreadful. That's entirely on Wyze though and the price you pay for buying the cheapest option. Personally I'm going to replace all my Wyze hardware over time and kick them to the curb. I'm starting with my Garage Door opener: I built one myself and connected it to Home Assistant which is connected to Google. Now I can open the door using Google Assistant, something I can't do with Wyze. I also don't have to open up their stupid app and wait for it to establish a video connection before I can tell it to open up the door. Wyze is cheap and easy, but it's also hot garbage.
      - wil421 4y ago
        Wyze refused to reconnect to my new WiFi access points with the same SSID but a different password. All kinds of resets did nothing and I ate the costs and switched my smart plugs to Kasa from TP Link. It’s been better but not without faults. Philips hue has very rarely caused me troubles except the adhesive on their cabinet lights was garbage.
- kragen 4y ago
  100% local control rules out any android or especially apple devices
  - count 4y ago
    One of the requirements for HomeKit branding is that you work without internet connectivity.
    - kragen 4y ago
      that's a good start, but if you have 100% local control over a device that is refusing to work (because it doesn't have internet connectivity or for any other reason), you can fix the bug (or apply someone else's fix you downloaded from gitlab) that doesn't work if you've ceded that control to apple, because they are not local
      - count 4y ago
        You..you do have control over the devices without internet access. That's the point. You don't have '100% control' over things like code because they're embedded, certified devices, generally.
      - wil421 4y ago
        I can put HomeKit devices on a VLAN and not have them phone home. My Apple TV or HomePod will act as a bridge and will carry out my automations while I’m gone. Apple devices don’t bother me they aren’t an Ad company and have products I’ll buy into.
autoexec 4y ago
That looks really interesting, for me at least, but that leans pretty far into the design/create yourself category. I have family who are realistically never going to pick up a pi and flash the OS to get that set up. I see there are a few devices you can buy though, and while I don't think they'd make it past something like this: https://yellow.home-assistant.io/nvme-selection-power-supply/ https://yellow.home-assistant.io/nvme-selection-power-supply... (if they even got that far) something more like this: https://ameridroid.com/collections/kits/products/odroid-n2-home-assistant-blue-bundle-limited-edition?ref=eeb6nfw07e https://ameridroid.com/collections/kits/products/odroid-n2-h... might work alright...
Steltek 4y ago
I want a cheap home smart camera that offer good local control. It seems like the premium jump from Wyze is like $100 per camera.

wil421 4y ago

Homebridge plus Apple Home in my opinion is much better than home assistant. If you’re android based or have really complicated automations I could see why home assistant would be better. Home assistant’s lack of compatibility with quite a few brands made me run Homebridge and home assistant together which defeats the purpose of HA.

noodlesUK 4y ago
I'm curious which devices you have that are supported by home bridge but not home assistant. I've had nothing but success using home assistant.
- wil421 4y ago
  This was over a year ago. Wyze and HA were having spats over API access. Unifi did not have a plug-in and I ended up having to install Homebridge.
  - bmurphy1976 4y ago
    Can't speak for Unifi but the Wyze support is pretty dreadful. That's entirely on Wyze though and the price you pay for buying the cheapest option. Personally I'm going to replace all my Wyze hardware over time and kick them to the curb. I'm starting with my Garage Door opener: I built one myself and connected it to Home Assistant which is connected to Google. Now I can open the door using Google Assistant, something I can't do with Wyze. I also don't have to open up their stupid app and wait for it to establish a video connection before I can tell it to open up the door. Wyze is cheap and easy, but it's also hot garbage.
    - wil421 4y ago
      Wyze refused to reconnect to my new WiFi access points with the same SSID but a different password. All kinds of resets did nothing and I ate the costs and switched my smart plugs to Kasa from TP Link. It’s been better but not without faults. Philips hue has very rarely caused me troubles except the adhesive on their cabinet lights was garbage.
kragen 4y ago
100% local control rules out any android or especially apple devices
- count 4y ago
  One of the requirements for HomeKit branding is that you work without internet connectivity.
  - kragen 4y ago
    that's a good start, but if you have 100% local control over a device that is refusing to work (because it doesn't have internet connectivity or for any other reason), you can fix the bug (or apply someone else's fix you downloaded from gitlab) that doesn't work if you've ceded that control to apple, because they are not local
    - count 4y ago
      You..you do have control over the devices without internet access. That's the point. You don't have '100% control' over things like code because they're embedded, certified devices, generally.
    - wil421 4y ago
      I can put HomeKit devices on a VLAN and not have them phone home. My Apple TV or HomePod will act as a bridge and will carry out my automations while I’m gone. Apple devices don’t bother me they aren’t an Ad company and have products I’ll buy into.

autoexec 4y ago

That looks really interesting, for me at least, but that leans pretty far into the design/create yourself category. I have family who are realistically never going to pick up a pi and flash the OS to get that set up. I see there are a few devices you can buy though, and while I don't think they'd make it past something like this: https://yellow.home-assistant.io/nvme-selection-power-supply/ https://yellow.home-assistant.io/nvme-selection-power-supply... (if they even got that far) something more like this: https://ameridroid.com/collections/kits/products/odroid-n2-home-assistant-blue-bundle-limited-edition?ref=eeb6nfw07e https://ameridroid.com/collections/kits/products/odroid-n2-h... might work alright...

Steltek 4y ago

I want a cheap home smart camera that offer good local control. It seems like the premium jump from Wyze is like $100 per camera.