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Yet the right to free speech and assembly have far more restrictions in place.

by yardie 4y ago

koolba 4y ago
> Yet the right to free speech and assembly have far more restrictions in place. That’s patently false. There’s an incredible number of federal and State regulations involved in the purchase, transfer, transport, and even storage of a firearm. What restrictions on speech and assembly would you consider more onerous than any of those?
- seanw444 4y ago
  I find that most people that claim guns themselves are the problem, and that there aren't already enough restrictions, don't have much or any experience with them. I don't really know how people manage to read the second amendment any other way than "due to the fact that a militia comprised of every able-bodied person is fundamental to a free society, every person has the right to own, carry, and operate anything that constitutes arms." It's pretty simple, really. Better go renew my warrantless search and seizure immunity permit, and my journalism permit.
msla 4y ago
America has an amazing level of freedom of expression, to the point I've seen a lot of Europeans get outright shocked that the concept of "hate speech" doesn't exist in our laws.
- mcv 4y ago
  But also that you can't say "shit" on American TV.
  - msla 4y ago
    > But also that you can't say "shit" on American TV. Yes, you can. South Park is on American TV, after all.
    - callalex 4y ago
      It is most definitely not on the air in the US. It is only available through “private” cable and satellite networks. We still have, and enforce censorship laws on public over-the-air broadcasts.
      - tekknik 4y ago
        Here’s the overview of the rules, and you can in fact say shit on the air: https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/obscene-indecent-and-profane-broadcasts https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/obscene-indecent-and-pr...
  - seanw444 4y ago
    Some channels won't air swearing, so they can reach better deals with providers. That's not a law.

Yet the right to free speech and assembly have far more restrictions in place.

by yardie 4y ago

Yet the right to free speech and assembly have far more restrictions in place.

> Yet the right to free speech and assembly have far more restrictions in place. That’s patently false. There’s an incredible number of federal and State regulations involved in the purchase, transfer, transport, and even storage of a firearm. What restrictions on speech and assembly would you consider more onerous than any of those?

seanw444 4y ago
I find that most people that claim guns themselves are the problem, and that there aren't already enough restrictions, don't have much or any experience with them. I don't really know how people manage to read the second amendment any other way than "due to the fact that a militia comprised of every able-bodied person is fundamental to a free society, every person has the right to own, carry, and operate anything that constitutes arms." It's pretty simple, really. Better go renew my warrantless search and seizure immunity permit, and my journalism permit.

msla 4y ago

America has an amazing level of freedom of expression, to the point I've seen a lot of Europeans get outright shocked that the concept of "hate speech" doesn't exist in our laws.

mcv 4y ago
But also that you can't say "shit" on American TV.
- msla 4y ago
  > But also that you can't say "shit" on American TV. Yes, you can. South Park is on American TV, after all.
  - callalex 4y ago
    It is most definitely not on the air in the US. It is only available through “private” cable and satellite networks. We still have, and enforce censorship laws on public over-the-air broadcasts.
    - tekknik 4y ago
      Here’s the overview of the rules, and you can in fact say shit on the air: https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/obscene-indecent-and-profane-broadcasts https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/obscene-indecent-and-pr...
- seanw444 4y ago
  Some channels won't air swearing, so they can reach better deals with providers. That's not a law.