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> Why should people believe anything you say on this topic? They shouldn't. I would just be glad if they would analyse my oppinion and try to understand what d

> Why should people believe anything you say on this topic? They shouldn't. I would just be glad if they would analyse my oppinion and try to understand what do I mean. Whenever I mention a fact they should check it if they consider it important. > How can they know you're not a bot or a psy-ops troll working for Xi or Putin with the mission to undermine the very fabric of Democratic societies? I am a psy-ops troll working for myself, my mission is to destroy unconscious beliefs, help people choose their own perception and beliefs counsciously, develop habits to exercise valid logic and become unmanipulatable and happy this way. Perhaps this indeed can undermine the fabric of Democratic societies. Democratic (let alone autocratic) is not free, it generally is a dictate of opportunist manipulators who manage to mesmerize the majority (while majority is never too bright). Isn't it?' > As humans there are VERY FEW "facts" we can know from first principles "A person looking like this is being shown on TV waying that right now" is a fact (not 100% reliable, perhaps I'v dreaming, but it most probably is). The statement he announces is not a fact, probably a lie. But now we can speculate about why would he say that now, given current context, how probable it is he is nit a deepfake and whether or not does this matter. Only 5 different regular polyhedra forms can exist in euclidean 3D space - this is another fact.

trashtester 4y ago
> I am a psy-ops troll working for myself, So you say. How can I know you're not lying even there? > Only 5 different regular polyhedra forms can exist in euclidean 3D space - this is another fact. Most people are no more able to verify this statement than statements about 11-dimensional string theory. If you have their trust, they will belive you, otherwise, not. Regardless of whether it's true. This goes all the way down. If highly educated and intelligent people are not able to overcome their diffences and clearly state what math and science is saying, including what the error bars are, and for all domains (including climate and sociobiology), people will distrust scentists they see as aligned with the other side.
- qwerty456127 4y ago
  > How can I know you're not lying even there? You never know. People mostly just believe what and whom they feel like believing. People having an idea of reasonable credibility are extremely rare. Simply adjusting your voice is enough to make a non-expert to believe or disbelieve you and more.

trashtester 4y ago

> I am a psy-ops troll working for myself, So you say. How can I know you're not lying even there? > Only 5 different regular polyhedra forms can exist in euclidean 3D space - this is another fact. Most people are no more able to verify this statement than statements about 11-dimensional string theory. If you have their trust, they will belive you, otherwise, not. Regardless of whether it's true. This goes all the way down. If highly educated and intelligent people are not able to overcome their diffences and clearly state what math and science is saying, including what the error bars are, and for all domains (including climate and sociobiology), people will distrust scentists they see as aligned with the other side.

qwerty456127 4y ago
> How can I know you're not lying even there? You never know. People mostly just believe what and whom they feel like believing. People having an idea of reasonable credibility are extremely rare. Simply adjusting your voice is enough to make a non-expert to believe or disbelieve you and more.