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> Since demotion doesn't exist for various reasons maybe not in faangs, but I've seen CTOs and directors downshift to ICs in multiple startups and public tech
by twelve40 4y ago
> Since demotion doesn't exist for various reasons
maybe not in faangs, but I've seen CTOs and directors downshift to ICs in multiple startups and public tech companies. Honestly kicking them out instead sounds like a huge waste, if the person can make solid contributions in a different, maybe less intense, role, why not let them?
- ma2rten 4y agoAt Google it is actually common to have directors or VPs who don't have reports for a while, but we are talking about people who are ICs already. For each management position there is an equivalent IC position at Google with similar pay. I believe L9 would be a senior director.
- CydeWeys 4y agoFrom what I've seen these senior people with no reports at the moment (or those with org sizes too small) were hardest hit in the layoffs, simply because of the misfortune of bad timing.
- CydeWeys 4y agoIt sounds like you're describing people getting a different job at a different company? That's not the same thing at all. When I joined Google I was "demoting" myself from TL/M equivalent to mere L4 SWE. The much higher pay didn't make it feel like a demotion though.