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Since this article was published, it is no longer straightforward to have dual-nationality between Germany and a non-EU country - the UK in this context. They'r

by vr46 4y ago

Since this article was published, it is no longer straightforward to have dual-nationality between Germany and a non-EU country - the UK in this context. They're considering it, but right now, you would need to give up your passport in order to gain a German one.

Semaphor 4y ago
That would still be the same, this is the "right of return" rules which is one of the exceptions to our "no dual citizenship" rules. What’s supposed to be changed soon is the normal way, like my South African wife who could get citizenship due to being married to me. Currently, she’d have to give up her SA citizenship to get the German one.
- hef19898 4y ago
  In those cases, if SA doesn't care, is to renounce the SA citizenship in front of German authorities and just get a new SA passport later. A lot of people with German and Turkish passports (also technically not allowed) do so. Trick is to not carry both at the same time. Or to apply for security clearances. Edit: There are countries in which you cannot loose citizenship, Afghanistan comes to mind as of a couple of years ago.
  - brmgb 4y ago
    Yes, it's mostly fine doing that. The German law is incredibly stupid in the context of international law anyway. The issue is that citizenship is stricly a country own prerogative outside of the agreement not to make people stateless. So Germany is free to tell you they won't give you the German nationality if you don't renounce your other ones and is free to strip you of your German nationality if they find you have another one. Meanwhile, the other country can still consider you a citizen if it wants to. That's its sovereign right and it doesn't have to agree to you asking not to be considered one.
  - Semaphor 4y ago
    I think we’ll be fine just waiting ;) And also, SA is also a bit weird about dual citizenship, you have to ask for permission first before getting another, and can’t even start the process of getting another before getting permission, which takes about a year. And apparently they almost never deny permission… Yet if you get another without asking them, you instantly lose your SA one.
pjmlp 4y ago
There are still exceptions, like if the original country considers treason to give up on the nationality with correponding high penalties, it used to be so that Germany would allow to keep the original nationality in such cases.

by vr46 4y ago

Semaphor 4y ago

That would still be the same, this is the "right of return" rules which is one of the exceptions to our "no dual citizenship" rules. What’s supposed to be changed soon is the normal way, like my South African wife who could get citizenship due to being married to me. Currently, she’d have to give up her SA citizenship to get the German one.

hef19898 4y ago
In those cases, if SA doesn't care, is to renounce the SA citizenship in front of German authorities and just get a new SA passport later. A lot of people with German and Turkish passports (also technically not allowed) do so. Trick is to not carry both at the same time. Or to apply for security clearances. Edit: There are countries in which you cannot loose citizenship, Afghanistan comes to mind as of a couple of years ago.
- brmgb 4y ago
  Yes, it's mostly fine doing that. The German law is incredibly stupid in the context of international law anyway. The issue is that citizenship is stricly a country own prerogative outside of the agreement not to make people stateless. So Germany is free to tell you they won't give you the German nationality if you don't renounce your other ones and is free to strip you of your German nationality if they find you have another one. Meanwhile, the other country can still consider you a citizen if it wants to. That's its sovereign right and it doesn't have to agree to you asking not to be considered one.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  I think we’ll be fine just waiting ;) And also, SA is also a bit weird about dual citizenship, you have to ask for permission first before getting another, and can’t even start the process of getting another before getting permission, which takes about a year. And apparently they almost never deny permission… Yet if you get another without asking them, you instantly lose your SA one.

pjmlp 4y ago

There are still exceptions, like if the original country considers treason to give up on the nationality with correponding high penalties, it used to be so that Germany would allow to keep the original nationality in such cases.