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Funny, I take this to mean that they aren't quite sure what happened yet. However, they are investigating and trying to figure out what happened, and trying to

by mbreese 15y ago

Funny, I take this to mean that they aren't quite sure what happened yet. However, they are investigating and trying to figure out what happened, and trying to get out in front of this PR-wise.

Lewisham 15y ago
Yeah, this was posted at 10:30 MTV time, so there wasn't enough time for head office in MTV to figure out what's gone on and what to do/say about it yet.
- brudgers 15y ago
  Having known people who work in PR, if something needs explaining at 2:30 am, the flacks are making their case, not sleeping.
  - kanamekun 15y ago
    Perhaps this is your intent, but I thought I'd mention that the word "flack" is considered a pejorative by many PR professionals: http://www.prnewsonline.com/prnewsblog/index.php/2008/10/15/flackflak-which-do-you-prefer/ http://www.prnewsonline.com/prnewsblog/index.php/2008/10/15/... This comment from the link above sums it up nicely: "I think it’s all a matter of context and intention. If someone who generally respects PR professionals uses the term “flack” informally (as I myself have done in a recent blog post), then I’m fine with it. If someone else is using the term as a derogatory remark to show lack of respect for the profession, then it makes me mad." Just thought I'd share the above for any other HN readers. Using the word "flack" is seen by many PR professionals as a sign of disrespect.
    - ZenPsycho 15y ago
      Is there a context in which it is not seen as a sign of disrespect? Perhaps when someone on HN says "flack" the disrespect is entirely intentional.
brudgers 15y ago
If Google were significantly unsure, it is unlikely that they would have apologized and it is unlikely that the would be preparing for "taking the appropriate action with the people involved." In other words, if it was a simple breech of contract, the steps would be straight forward and easy to list as I suspect that actions which bring disrepute upon Google are covered in Google's standard contracts.

by mbreese 15y ago

Funny, I take this to mean that they aren't quite sure what happened yet. However, they are investigating and trying to figure out what happened, and trying to get out in front of this PR-wise.

Lewisham 15y ago

Yeah, this was posted at 10:30 MTV time, so there wasn't enough time for head office in MTV to figure out what's gone on and what to do/say about it yet.

brudgers 15y ago
Having known people who work in PR, if something needs explaining at 2:30 am, the flacks are making their case, not sleeping.
- kanamekun 15y ago
  Perhaps this is your intent, but I thought I'd mention that the word "flack" is considered a pejorative by many PR professionals: http://www.prnewsonline.com/prnewsblog/index.php/2008/10/15/flackflak-which-do-you-prefer/ http://www.prnewsonline.com/prnewsblog/index.php/2008/10/15/... This comment from the link above sums it up nicely: "I think it’s all a matter of context and intention. If someone who generally respects PR professionals uses the term “flack” informally (as I myself have done in a recent blog post), then I’m fine with it. If someone else is using the term as a derogatory remark to show lack of respect for the profession, then it makes me mad." Just thought I'd share the above for any other HN readers. Using the word "flack" is seen by many PR professionals as a sign of disrespect.
  - ZenPsycho 15y ago
    Is there a context in which it is not seen as a sign of disrespect? Perhaps when someone on HN says "flack" the disrespect is entirely intentional.

brudgers 15y ago

If Google were significantly unsure, it is unlikely that they would have apologized and it is unlikely that the would be preparing for "taking the appropriate action with the people involved." In other words, if it was a simple breech of contract, the steps would be straight forward and easy to list as I suspect that actions which bring disrepute upon Google are covered in Google's standard contracts.