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now that it is in the open , any high school boy can create some porn deepfakes of their classmates and suicide rate will probably rise. Let's see if you still

now that it is in the open , any high school boy can create some porn deepfakes of their classmates and suicide rate will probably rise. Let's see if you still hold this view when one of your family members is a victim

charcircuit 4y ago
Rule 34 of the internet. It's inevitable.
number6 4y ago
We are lifing just fine with car related deaths. The rate is much higher than suicide rates. Bullying is alive and well even without this tech. I guess scissoring out a photo from the yearbook and glue it in a porn magazine would work as good. It is not about believability but about the psychological damage when it comes to bullying
- polytely 4y ago
  But with cars there is an upside, we tolerate it because it is so usefull and the government does its best to make it as safe as possible, setting requirements that need to be met for you to legally use it. In this case there isn't that much upside, it's basically only being used for non-consensual porn generation and impersonating people
  - number6 4y ago
    Upside: Consensual porn generation and consensual impersonation.
    - phtrivier 4y ago
      Then, it's going to be pretty hard to defend that the "downside-related" usage and the "upside-related" usage are anywhere near each other in terms of volume. To be clearer: yeah, some people are probably creating deepfakes of their own, consensual GFs somewhere on the planet - and more fun to them. There are also comedians doing great things with that. But let's not kid ourselves into the actual, massively majoritary usage: making someone else's life just a tad shittier, either for profit or out of pure meanness. I don't know if there is academically sanctionned data about it to appease the HN-crowd, but when it comes out and says "yeah, statistically, talented comedians and kinky couples are only a fraction of the scammers and revenger-p.rn users.", don't count me suprised.
saurik 4y ago
People have been able to draw naked pictures of people forever, and almost anyone with very little skill has been able to create extremely believable realistic fake naked photographs of people for over a decade now. I honestly don't understand the fear here: video is only more believable than a photograph because video is harder to forge... well, now it isn't, so video isn't believable either. But video could already be forged before, it just required more effort and more skill so a bunch of people have chosen to accept a miserable heuristic that it can't be forged and so it is worth always believing it... why is this good? How is this even sort of OK? We should strive to live in a world where video is as farcical as photography.
- wruza 4y ago
  Effort is what stops people from bullying others at much larger scale. You don’t understand bullying at all. It’s easy for them to kick your ass or say things every time you pass by and it’s hard for them to create anything without single-tap solutions.
notfed 4y ago
Hard disagree. Quite the opposite: the existence of deepfakes provides a safety net of plausible deniability. Suicide rates should drop as the technology becomes more prevalent.

charcircuit 4y ago

Rule 34 of the internet. It's inevitable.

number6 4y ago

We are lifing just fine with car related deaths. The rate is much higher than suicide rates. Bullying is alive and well even without this tech. I guess scissoring out a photo from the yearbook and glue it in a porn magazine would work as good. It is not about believability but about the psychological damage when it comes to bullying

polytely 4y ago
But with cars there is an upside, we tolerate it because it is so usefull and the government does its best to make it as safe as possible, setting requirements that need to be met for you to legally use it. In this case there isn't that much upside, it's basically only being used for non-consensual porn generation and impersonating people
- number6 4y ago
  Upside: Consensual porn generation and consensual impersonation.
  - phtrivier 4y ago
    Then, it's going to be pretty hard to defend that the "downside-related" usage and the "upside-related" usage are anywhere near each other in terms of volume. To be clearer: yeah, some people are probably creating deepfakes of their own, consensual GFs somewhere on the planet - and more fun to them. There are also comedians doing great things with that. But let's not kid ourselves into the actual, massively majoritary usage: making someone else's life just a tad shittier, either for profit or out of pure meanness. I don't know if there is academically sanctionned data about it to appease the HN-crowd, but when it comes out and says "yeah, statistically, talented comedians and kinky couples are only a fraction of the scammers and revenger-p.rn users.", don't count me suprised.

saurik 4y ago

People have been able to draw naked pictures of people forever, and almost anyone with very little skill has been able to create extremely believable realistic fake naked photographs of people for over a decade now. I honestly don't understand the fear here: video is only more believable than a photograph because video is harder to forge... well, now it isn't, so video isn't believable either. But video could already be forged before, it just required more effort and more skill so a bunch of people have chosen to accept a miserable heuristic that it can't be forged and so it is worth always believing it... why is this good? How is this even sort of OK? We should strive to live in a world where video is as farcical as photography.

wruza 4y ago
Effort is what stops people from bullying others at much larger scale. You don’t understand bullying at all. It’s easy for them to kick your ass or say things every time you pass by and it’s hard for them to create anything without single-tap solutions.

notfed 4y ago

Hard disagree. Quite the opposite: the existence of deepfakes provides a safety net of plausible deniability. Suicide rates should drop as the technology becomes more prevalent.