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If it's not government hiring how is it legal to require citizenship?

by culi 4y ago

atkailash 4y ago
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deaddodo 4y ago
For the same reason they can require you to have a Driver's License, be able to carry 50+lbs, live in the borders of Maryland, etc, etc. Having the right to work in the US doesn't entitle you to a job. And there are plenty of reasons government institutions would want to disallow non-nationals a position. The whole point of citizenship is, after all, buying into the system; if you're not "in" your allegiances or potential recourse can always be argued to be limited. Dual-Citizens, such as myself, are in a similar boat for the same reasons (unless they opt to renounce foreign ties).
- confidantlake 4y ago
  Just to give some additional information but there are many government jobs or government contracting jobs where you can be a dual citizen, including I believe this one.
  - deaddodo 4y ago
    I didn’t mean lacking the exact same job opportunities, but having their loyalties be questioned and denied from certain secure positions. I don’t believe this job actually would be possible as the level of clearance requested is usually denied to dual-nationals (without renouncing, of course).
    - confidantlake 4y ago
      Oh ok, thanks for the clarification.
trhr 4y ago
I read it as they're not requiring citizenship, they're requiring clearance, which requires citizenship.
- 0xBDB 4y ago
  It wouldn't matter if they were requiring citizenship. The protected category is national origin. Companies can't normally require native-born citizenship but any company can refuse to hire non-citizens. Citizenship is a pretty common requirement in information security in sensitive industries, to use the example I'm familiar with.
  - trhr 4y ago
    Yeah, that makes sense. Who would deny a naturalized American all the rights and privileges? I don't know what people are getting upset about; I don't see anything that says "requires a native-born US citizen." It says "US ONLY US Citizen," but that only excludes people who still swear allegiance to King Charles.

If it's not government hiring how is it legal to require citizenship?

by culi 4y ago

If it's not government hiring how is it legal to require citizenship?

atkailash 4y ago

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deaddodo 4y ago

For the same reason they can require you to have a Driver's License, be able to carry 50+lbs, live in the borders of Maryland, etc, etc. Having the right to work in the US doesn't entitle you to a job. And there are plenty of reasons government institutions would want to disallow non-nationals a position. The whole point of citizenship is, after all, buying into the system; if you're not "in" your allegiances or potential recourse can always be argued to be limited. Dual-Citizens, such as myself, are in a similar boat for the same reasons (unless they opt to renounce foreign ties).

confidantlake 4y ago
Just to give some additional information but there are many government jobs or government contracting jobs where you can be a dual citizen, including I believe this one.
- deaddodo 4y ago
  I didn’t mean lacking the exact same job opportunities, but having their loyalties be questioned and denied from certain secure positions. I don’t believe this job actually would be possible as the level of clearance requested is usually denied to dual-nationals (without renouncing, of course).
  - confidantlake 4y ago
    Oh ok, thanks for the clarification.

trhr 4y ago

I read it as they're not requiring citizenship, they're requiring clearance, which requires citizenship.

0xBDB 4y ago
It wouldn't matter if they were requiring citizenship. The protected category is national origin. Companies can't normally require native-born citizenship but any company can refuse to hire non-citizens. Citizenship is a pretty common requirement in information security in sensitive industries, to use the example I'm familiar with.
- trhr 4y ago
  Yeah, that makes sense. Who would deny a naturalized American all the rights and privileges? I don't know what people are getting upset about; I don't see anything that says "requires a native-born US citizen." It says "US ONLY US Citizen," but that only excludes people who still swear allegiance to King Charles.