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The real premium version of Microsoft Teams will be the one that doesn't crash my Google Chrome window every 30-45 minutes.

by jbm 4y ago

rochak 4y ago
Facts. Unfortunately, this could very well be a pipe dream.
thrwawy74 4y ago
I get so tired of what would seem like very simple things breaking in Teams. All this last week I've been recording conference calls with Powerpoint. I understand there's a recording function within Teams, but it started out singleplayer with no one watching the demonstrations of my processes. Anyway, Teams will pop up notifications while I'm recording and it didn't used to. Hell, I'll be sharing my screen in Teams and it will show my notifications over the screen share. So far I've been lucky that nothing surprising has been leaked to others or wound up in recordings, but this didn't used to happen.
shmerl 4y ago
Or one that works in Firefox without disconnecting you at random when you try to make a video call or join a conference.
- olyjohn 4y ago
  Or a Windows app that doesn't crash and fuck up all the time. Or a Mac app that doesn't crash and fuck up all the time. Or a Linux app that isn't total and complete garbage. It's such a steaming pile of shit to try to do basic things with, but they're spending time on this shit.
runako 4y ago
I don't use Teams as a daily driver, but I would be a candidate for a paid upgrade pack that made it have the polish one expects from an app built by a public company. In particular, the emoji are terrible.
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  At this point, I'm way past hoping to see any polish. I'd be happy if they improved the responsiveness. Say to the level of MSN Messenger 20 years ago, even though I'm running 2022 hardware.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    For some reason, intra org Teams calls slow down Office (from outlook to Excel) down significantly at my place. Teams, outside the call, becomes basically unusable. Funny thing is, when having calls with people outside the org, everything is running just smooth and fine...
    - vladvasiliu 4y ago
      In my case, I mostly use Linux, so I use the online versions of the office apps, except for Teams. The other day I installed the local clients on a newish computer (11th gen i7, win 11) and was shocked by how sluggish Outlook felt. I understand the online versions lack some features, but for my use-case they are great.
      - hef19898 4y ago
        My private daily is Linux, too. It is dual boot, mostly for gaming and because I am too lazy to figure out wireless scanning under Linux. Libre Office runs under Linux, school teams, some fames and scanning under Eindows 10. Plus, I can keep my kids stuff seperate from mine for the most part.
karlshea 4y ago
The real premium version of teams would actually show people on the other end of the call what my side says I'm sharing.
denysvitali 4y ago
That's why we're building FossTeams [1], an open source client for Microsoft Teams (: The idea is to have a backend [2], powered by a library [3] that does the heavy lifting and a / multiple frontends to be used with that (e.g: CLI[4], Web frontend[5], Flutter app[6]). We're looking for contributors! If you hate Teams and want to improve an Open Source version, PRs are welcome (: [1]: https://github.com/fossteams https://github.com/fossteams [2]: https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams-backend https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams-backend [3]: https://github.com/fossteams/teams-api https://github.com/fossteams/teams-api [4]: https://github.com/fossteams/teams-cli https://github.com/fossteams/teams-cli [5]: https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams-frontend https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams-frontend [6]: https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams_gui https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams_gui
- csmpltn 4y ago
  Honest question, asked in good faith. What's your plan when for when the "cease and desist" letter is going to come in?
  - denysvitali 4y ago
    We'll see. We're doing nothing more than using undocumented APIs and in the end these clients are not competing against Microsoft Teams (but actually bringing / keeping more user base there). On top of that, we provide the code as MIT, so Microsoft can reuse the code for themselves. If they still send a cease and desist letter, we'll probably comply and make sure the code is archived somewhere for people to continue / use the project (: TL;DR: I would consider a cease and desist a success, and hope that Microsoft reuses the code
- up2isomorphism 4y ago
  I don’t think it can be really improved as long as Microsoft can sell this slow unstable piece of crap into all the big corporate by shameless bribing. I used to work in a big corporate, suddenly all teams has to change to MS team even the current software works just fine. I just decided to quit.

The real premium version of Microsoft Teams will be the one that doesn't crash my Google Chrome window every 30-45 minutes.

by jbm 4y ago

The real premium version of Microsoft Teams will be the one that doesn't crash my Google Chrome window every 30-45 minutes.

rochak 4y ago

Facts. Unfortunately, this could very well be a pipe dream.

thrwawy74 4y ago

I get so tired of what would seem like very simple things breaking in Teams. All this last week I've been recording conference calls with Powerpoint. I understand there's a recording function within Teams, but it started out singleplayer with no one watching the demonstrations of my processes. Anyway, Teams will pop up notifications while I'm recording and it didn't used to. Hell, I'll be sharing my screen in Teams and it will show my notifications over the screen share. So far I've been lucky that nothing surprising has been leaked to others or wound up in recordings, but this didn't used to happen.

shmerl 4y ago

Or one that works in Firefox without disconnecting you at random when you try to make a video call or join a conference.

olyjohn 4y ago
Or a Windows app that doesn't crash and fuck up all the time. Or a Mac app that doesn't crash and fuck up all the time. Or a Linux app that isn't total and complete garbage. It's such a steaming pile of shit to try to do basic things with, but they're spending time on this shit.

runako 4y ago

I don't use Teams as a daily driver, but I would be a candidate for a paid upgrade pack that made it have the polish one expects from an app built by a public company. In particular, the emoji are terrible.

vladvasiliu 4y ago
At this point, I'm way past hoping to see any polish. I'd be happy if they improved the responsiveness. Say to the level of MSN Messenger 20 years ago, even though I'm running 2022 hardware.
- hef19898 4y ago
  For some reason, intra org Teams calls slow down Office (from outlook to Excel) down significantly at my place. Teams, outside the call, becomes basically unusable. Funny thing is, when having calls with people outside the org, everything is running just smooth and fine...
  - vladvasiliu 4y ago
    In my case, I mostly use Linux, so I use the online versions of the office apps, except for Teams. The other day I installed the local clients on a newish computer (11th gen i7, win 11) and was shocked by how sluggish Outlook felt. I understand the online versions lack some features, but for my use-case they are great.
    - hef19898 4y ago
      My private daily is Linux, too. It is dual boot, mostly for gaming and because I am too lazy to figure out wireless scanning under Linux. Libre Office runs under Linux, school teams, some fames and scanning under Eindows 10. Plus, I can keep my kids stuff seperate from mine for the most part.

karlshea 4y ago

The real premium version of teams would actually show people on the other end of the call what my side says I'm sharing.

denysvitali 4y ago

That's why we're building FossTeams [1], an open source client for Microsoft Teams (: The idea is to have a backend [2], powered by a library [3] that does the heavy lifting and a / multiple frontends to be used with that (e.g: CLI[4], Web frontend[5], Flutter app[6]). We're looking for contributors! If you hate Teams and want to improve an Open Source version, PRs are welcome (: [1]: https://github.com/fossteams https://github.com/fossteams [2]: https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams-backend https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams-backend [3]: https://github.com/fossteams/teams-api https://github.com/fossteams/teams-api [4]: https://github.com/fossteams/teams-cli https://github.com/fossteams/teams-cli [5]: https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams-frontend https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams-frontend [6]: https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams_gui https://github.com/fossteams/fossteams_gui

csmpltn 4y ago
Honest question, asked in good faith. What's your plan when for when the "cease and desist" letter is going to come in?
- denysvitali 4y ago
  We'll see. We're doing nothing more than using undocumented APIs and in the end these clients are not competing against Microsoft Teams (but actually bringing / keeping more user base there). On top of that, we provide the code as MIT, so Microsoft can reuse the code for themselves. If they still send a cease and desist letter, we'll probably comply and make sure the code is archived somewhere for people to continue / use the project (: TL;DR: I would consider a cease and desist a success, and hope that Microsoft reuses the code
up2isomorphism 4y ago
I don’t think it can be really improved as long as Microsoft can sell this slow unstable piece of crap into all the big corporate by shameless bribing. I used to work in a big corporate, suddenly all teams has to change to MS team even the current software works just fine. I just decided to quit.