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L5 used to be the terminal level, at least for most engineers. L8+ is very rare in my experience.
by ftufek 4y ago
L5 used to be the terminal level, at least for most engineers. L8+ is very rare in my experience.
- jefftk 4y agoWhen I joined Google my TL was an L6 on the engineering track, 10 years ago. My vague memory of the engineering ladder when I joined went up to L9.
- mikebenfield 4y ago"Terminal level" doesn't mean the highest level.
- jefftk 4y agoInteresting! I don't think I'd seen the term before, but it does seem standard: https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2018/04/23/pace/ https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2018/04/23/pace/ With that usage, the point at which the company stops being "up or out", it was L5 when I joined, and L4 when I left.
- kodah 4y agoTerminal level generally indicates a glass ceiling that most folks can't rise above. Senior and Staff are generally terminal levels for the rest of the industry.
- lokar 4y ago8+ was about 0.5% of eng a few years ago
- jeffbee 4y agoYeah and 6+ was < 10%. This list definitely seems biased toward the higher levels. 41 Staff SWEs and only 60 Senior SWEs is a crazy ratio. Consistent with the rumor that they targeted high comp packages.