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I'm not sure how you're measuring console success. For me, Nintendo is the clear winner of the current console wars. Nintendo makes hideous amounts of profit on
by axod 18y ago
I'm not sure how you're measuring console success.
For me, Nintendo is the clear winner of the current console wars. Nintendo makes hideous amounts of profit on everything. XBox as far as I understand still makes a gargantuan loss. It's a long term strategy, and who knows, maybe it'll play out for microsoft, but I don't think it's relevant to the question of ms understanding the internet. It just shows they understand getting people to use something and taking a massive loss on it.
- TweedHeads 18y agoWii is the clear winner.
- axod 18y agoThe DS has been astoundingly successful also. Especially in getting non-gamers to buy it and use it. Nintendo played a blinding strategy - let Sony and Microsoft play "Who has the biggest willy" with their hardcore gaming hardware which renders 4 gazillion polygons a second, while Nintendo makes fun games with wide appeal.
- LogicHoleFlaw 18y agoThe Xbox division is now actually turning a profit. Not enough to offset the massive losses it's had in the past, but it is actually generating revenue now. The Xbox itself is a good product. They overlooked the market the Wii pursued, but then again everyone but Nintendo did. If I recall Nintendo has never had an unprofitable quarter, even during the GameCube days when they were doing much less volume than the competitors.
- mattmaroon 18y agoThey've always viewed it as an investment. Honestly, it's worked out pretty damn well. I'd never have guessed they'd have gotten to 2nd place so fast. Moreover, they've just begun to capitalize on it. As I said, they've got an internet connected box tethered to everyone's TV. They've been working on the dream of the living room PC for years, and now they've finally gotten there.
- axod 18y ago"they've got an internet connected box tethered to everyone's TV" Teenage male bedroom TVs perhaps. Lets not get carried away here.
- mattmaroon 18y agoMost people I've seen keep their gaming consoles in the living room since that's where the best TV is.
- LogicHoleFlaw 18y agoIn fact, my father plays video games much more than I do. And I consider myself a pretty "hard-core" gamer.
- mattmaroon 18y agoI was speaking only of their internet usage. Wii is still playing catch up a bit there.
- axod 18y agoWhat's the browser like on the xbox? presumably some subset of IE7?
- LogicHoleFlaw 18y agoThere isn't a general-purpose browser on the Xbox. Sadly enough.
- axod 18y agoJesus christ. What more proof is needed that microsoft don't get the internet? All in all the wii's opera browser is pretty functional.
- LogicHoleFlaw 18y agoIt's a huge deficiency. On the other hand, the voice chat, friends lists, instant messenging, game matchmaking, and online marketplace all work pretty well. Nintendo has a browser and an effective marketplace, but the actual game connectivity is lackluster.