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I disagree. I've tried Linux on the desktop over and over and over again from about 1997 and there's just problems with it all over the place. I have used it on
by wrldos 4y ago
I disagree. I've tried Linux on the desktop over and over and over again from about 1997 and there's just problems with it all over the place. I have used it on the server for the same period. The desktop environment for a start has been incredibly volatile, the kernel maturity is just not there and honestly most of the commercial apps out there which are Windows or macOS only aren't available on Linux. Also sometimes updates break things terribly. To this day many people dread closing their laptop lids or running apt-update on non debian distros.
Ergo I stuck with Windows and used Linux in VMs when required. Then I dived out back into macOS about 3 years ago. This was just expensive, volatile and obtuse. If you stay within the rails it just works though and I'll give them their due; the hardware, particularly ARM is top notch. But again some stuff I need to do just doesn't work well on it and it's very pay to play. I feel a little exhausted if I'm honest after riding the rollercoaster on that.
So now, here I am with an ass end desktop PC again running windows 11 pro and it really does just work fine. I got one annoying notification which was gpedit'ed out and it's been wonderful so far with no further eye pokings. I don't get ads thrown at me. It keeps out of the way. There was one hardware issue which was fixed by replacing an HDMI cable with a DisplayPort cable. It's absolutely boring which is how I like things. If something does go wrong, a thousand people will have had the same issue, so I can fix it with Google in 10 minutes.
Edit: I feel dirty giving Microsoft some credit here.
Edit 2: notable commercial apps I use: Photoshop (sorry gimp doesn't cut it), Lightroom (and no darktable doesn't cut it) and Excel (libreoffice nope). I also have a Lenovo T495s Ryzen here running Ubuntu that hangs after 2-3 minutes on the desktop consistently.
- tokai 4y agoNot being snarky, but when did you last try linux? Your points about volatile DEs and kernel maturity seems almost 10 years out of date.
- wrldos 4y agoSee my last edit. 22.04 LTS on a ThinkPad T495s Ryzen. Hangs after 2-3 minutes. Absolutely no issues on Windows. Last updated about 2-3 weeks ago. This is the hilarious thing: https://ubuntu.com/certified/201906-27170 https://ubuntu.com/certified/201906-27170 And yes it hung on 18.04 LTS as well. I don't have the time or energy to deal with that shit in my life.
- secstate 4y agoThat almost sounds like bad hardware that Windows is somehow not using, or working around in a hacky way. I am literally typing this on a T495s with 22.04 LTS and no freeze, nothing. Uptime thanks to suspend is creeping along at something like 30 days.
- wrldos 4y agoMy daughter’s one does the same for ref. Which CPU does yours have in it. Ours are both 3700U. The issue is related to Radeon and power management. That’s as far as I got with debugging before my crushed soul put windows back on it so I could get some shit done.
- Arainach 4y agoThey're as true today as ever. On a modern desktop, using GNOME, everything still randomly breaks. Randomly (maybe when Gnome is upgraded) most of my plugins break and leave everything in a bad state. There was the time when ArcMenu broke and left me with no launcher or way to get to anything short of finding my way to a terminal and blowing away my config. There's the fact that my Logitech MX Ergo is unusably laggy unless I configure a text file: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Bluetooth_mouse#Mouse_lag https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Bluetooth_mouse#Mouse_lag There was the time that Dash to Panel was retired and replaced with the same code but in a new location. There's the fact that most usable window managers don't support enough zones to snap windows or keyboard shortcuts to do so, and that if you mention this everyone will tell you to use a tiling window manager and act like you're "not a real engineer" for using anything else. There's the fact that all Linux window managers forget that multiple monitors exist. WMs with launchers will have launchers only on one monitor. Using i3 on multiple monitors is endless pain. There's the fact that there are a million Linux package managers, they're all feuding with each other, and software developers who care about users more than political infighting have largely given up. Updating Discord on Linux is a nightmare; if I don't use my Linux laptop for a month or two even Google Chrome will be stuck in a state where I have to manually download and reinstall a new package. I started using Linux in 1997 with Red Hat 5.2. I've used it throughout my career, and 26 years later it's still not ready for every day desktop/laptop use.
- LtWorf 4y ago> the commercial apps out there which are Windows or macOS only aren't available on Linux So you're saying that the apps that aren't available on linux, aren't available on linux? What a great surprise!
- wrldos 4y agoI’m saying that everyone shouts switch to Linux but this isn’t an option for a lot of people and isn’t even likely the best solution for most. Most of the commercial apps have no viable alternatives on Linux or the open source market gap fillers are vastly inferior.