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I mean, there is an option to stay on Windows 10 but man... Microsoft, really scraping the bottom of the barrel with that move. Though with only 18% of Windows

I mean, there is an option to stay on Windows 10 but man... Microsoft, really scraping the bottom of the barrel with that move. Though with only 18% of Windows users on Windows 11, and Windows 10 going EOL in 2 years supposedly... maybe they are that desperate. Having to extend Windows 10's service life would be humiliating.

Traubenfuchs 4y ago
> Microsoft, really scraping the bottom of the barrel with that move. They have been there at least since Candy Crush appeared in the Start menu.
- gjsman-1000 4y ago
  True. It's not like the Windows 10 upgrade was handled in a user-respecting way either... and everything related to Microsoft Edge is pretty awful.
- goldfeld 4y ago
  It's the same brainless intent that has TV hosts receiving the crappiest pop music numbness on their programs. Not that I've ever seen that.
amysox 4y ago
All you people who thought that Micro$oft in the Satya Nidella era had become a kinder, gentler company, this is proof positive that the tiger doesn't change its stripes. (now looking for a good alternative to the Atom text editor because I refuse to use VSCode)
- j-bos 4y ago
  I've been using VSCodium as a drop in replacement for VSCode. Data point of 1.
  - viraptor 4y ago
    It's good as long as you don't need the live share feature.
    - nyanpasu64 4y ago
      Or SSH remote development, or C++, or C#, or Pyright... Microsoft is big on "embrace, extend, extinguish" by releasing proprietary extensions that only run on proprietary VS Code binaries, and detect and refuse to operate on open-source builds.
viraptor 4y ago
I was really hoping they would stick to their "window 10 is the last windows" rolling release idea. They could've avoided this whole thing this way. (It could be still bad for the users though...)
- Gigachad 4y ago
  I think they probably wanted the big yearly announcement posts that Android, iOS and macOS get. You don't get people whinging about having to update any other OS, which is funny because Windows tends to break stuff the least out of any of them. Perhaps if MS started releasing a numbered windows every year people would be less resistant to installing it.
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  - viraptor 4y ago
    > You don't get people whinging about having to update any other OS I think you just missed them. iOS gets constant issues - at least they stopped breaking the alarm clock. Each MacOS is a "what will I have to debug for a day this time" experience. Linux depends on a distribution, but Ubuntu at least is trying hard to join the release-breaking group. The only one I personally never complained about is Android. (I'm sure others have...)
    - Gigachad 4y ago
      There have been stats posted showing almost all iOS users run the latest version at any moment, so there clearly isn't the same kind of fear of updating that Windows users have had.
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        Windows users are afraid to upgrade because Microsoft generally tends to change things. When Apple actually makes breaking changes to their OS (see: Catalina, Big Sur, et. al) people are deathly afraid of upgrading their Mac. At least I've learned to fear it, after installing Catalina and watching half my apps break upon reboot.
0cf8612b2e1e 4y ago
Ehh I am pretty sure that every "last, final, pinky promise" deadline for Windows end of support has been extended multiple times. I believe Win7 support was finally scheduled to end 2023-January (as in today).

Traubenfuchs 4y ago

> Microsoft, really scraping the bottom of the barrel with that move. They have been there at least since Candy Crush appeared in the Start menu.

gjsman-1000 4y ago
True. It's not like the Windows 10 upgrade was handled in a user-respecting way either... and everything related to Microsoft Edge is pretty awful.
goldfeld 4y ago
It's the same brainless intent that has TV hosts receiving the crappiest pop music numbness on their programs. Not that I've ever seen that.

amysox 4y ago

All you people who thought that Micro$oft in the Satya Nidella era had become a kinder, gentler company, this is proof positive that the tiger doesn't change its stripes. (now looking for a good alternative to the Atom text editor because I refuse to use VSCode)

j-bos 4y ago
I've been using VSCodium as a drop in replacement for VSCode. Data point of 1.
- viraptor 4y ago
  It's good as long as you don't need the live share feature.
  - nyanpasu64 4y ago
    Or SSH remote development, or C++, or C#, or Pyright... Microsoft is big on "embrace, extend, extinguish" by releasing proprietary extensions that only run on proprietary VS Code binaries, and detect and refuse to operate on open-source builds.

viraptor 4y ago

I was really hoping they would stick to their "window 10 is the last windows" rolling release idea. They could've avoided this whole thing this way. (It could be still bad for the users though...)

Gigachad 4y ago
I think they probably wanted the big yearly announcement posts that Android, iOS and macOS get. You don't get people whinging about having to update any other OS, which is funny because Windows tends to break stuff the least out of any of them. Perhaps if MS started releasing a numbered windows every year people would be less resistant to installing it.
- deleted 4y ago
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- viraptor 4y ago
  > You don't get people whinging about having to update any other OS I think you just missed them. iOS gets constant issues - at least they stopped breaking the alarm clock. Each MacOS is a "what will I have to debug for a day this time" experience. Linux depends on a distribution, but Ubuntu at least is trying hard to join the release-breaking group. The only one I personally never complained about is Android. (I'm sure others have...)
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    There have been stats posted showing almost all iOS users run the latest version at any moment, so there clearly isn't the same kind of fear of updating that Windows users have had.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      Windows users are afraid to upgrade because Microsoft generally tends to change things. When Apple actually makes breaking changes to their OS (see: Catalina, Big Sur, et. al) people are deathly afraid of upgrading their Mac. At least I've learned to fear it, after installing Catalina and watching half my apps break upon reboot.

0cf8612b2e1e 4y ago

Ehh I am pretty sure that every "last, final, pinky promise" deadline for Windows end of support has been extended multiple times. I believe Win7 support was finally scheduled to end 2023-January (as in today).