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> Why would they want it? I'm surprised they offer anything. I was thinking the same thing as I read, and wondering if the trade-in price was just a token to g

> Why would they want it? I'm surprised they offer anything. I was thinking the same thing as I read, and wondering if the trade-in price was just a token to get a customer to turn the machine into e-waste, but later on the article notes Apple sells similar refurbished machines for tens of thousands of dollars, a fact that I verified: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/G0ZKMLL/A/Refurbished-Mac-Pro-25GHz-28-core-Intel-Xeon-W-Two-Radeon-Pro-Vega-II-Duo-Apple-Afterburner?fnode=855eff7148294b95d7dc06e44a9e69f44d94f18deb452b36d69ae0fb4d62aa16acf969362ac4ccbdeb0ae1924e1866250b9df6f5ff3a7374801586e79f36d6e11f975e5cceaa8687b055c5e8371de9a1 https://www.apple.com/shop/product/G0ZKMLL/A/Refurbished-Mac... https://web.archive.org/web/20230201183646/https://www.apple.com/shop/product/G0ZKMLL/A/Refurbished-Mac-Pro-25GHz-28-core-Intel-Xeon-W-Two-Radeon-Pro-Vega-II-Duo-Apple-Afterburner?fnode=855eff7148294b95d7dc06e44a9e69f44d94f18deb452b36d69ae0fb4d62aa16acf969362ac4ccbdeb0ae1924e1866250b9df6f5ff3a7374801586e79f36d6e11f975e5cceaa8687b055c5e8371de9a1 https://web.archive.org/web/20230201183646/https://www.apple... This kind of has the feel of a unscrupulous car salesman low-balling a trade-in to take advantage of a customer.

oneplane 4y ago
I wonder if the refurb stock at Apple is a result of the AppleCare-style trade-method where they give you a replacement machine and they repair the old one and then have to somehow get rid of it. I wouldn't be surprised if the trade-in program isn't actually dealt with by Apple but is actually fulfilled by a third party for Apple so they don't have to deal with it.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  I expect you are right. The few times I've used Apple for a trade-in, I recall that the actual trade-in is to a third-party. I'm not at all convinced the hardware ever makes it back to Apple themselves.
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rootusrootus 4y ago
The comparison to a car salesman is apt. If I were to trade in my 6 week old Model 3 to Tesla right now, they'd offer around 20 grand less than I paid them for it. Though to be fair, that's probably true of any random car dealer, because of what Tesla did to the used market a couple weeks ago.
- zamfi 4y ago
  This is a very 2021 take. Outside the limited-time pandemic-related supply chain issues, every new car drops in value the second you drive it off the lot. Nothing to do with Tesla. If anything, the last 2 years of sky-high used car prices have more to do with production capacity than any intrinsic value in used cars. (The value in the last 2 years coming from immediacy, not intrinsic value.)

oneplane 4y ago

I wonder if the refurb stock at Apple is a result of the AppleCare-style trade-method where they give you a replacement machine and they repair the old one and then have to somehow get rid of it. I wouldn't be surprised if the trade-in program isn't actually dealt with by Apple but is actually fulfilled by a third party for Apple so they don't have to deal with it.

rootusrootus 4y ago
I expect you are right. The few times I've used Apple for a trade-in, I recall that the actual trade-in is to a third-party. I'm not at all convinced the hardware ever makes it back to Apple themselves.
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rootusrootus 4y ago

The comparison to a car salesman is apt. If I were to trade in my 6 week old Model 3 to Tesla right now, they'd offer around 20 grand less than I paid them for it. Though to be fair, that's probably true of any random car dealer, because of what Tesla did to the used market a couple weeks ago.

zamfi 4y ago
This is a very 2021 take. Outside the limited-time pandemic-related supply chain issues, every new car drops in value the second you drive it off the lot. Nothing to do with Tesla. If anything, the last 2 years of sky-high used car prices have more to do with production capacity than any intrinsic value in used cars. (The value in the last 2 years coming from immediacy, not intrinsic value.)