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I wonder how the payment rates would change if he simply mounted a ... camera An interesting question. I wouldn't be surprised if the camera made it worse. My

I wonder how the payment rates would change if he simply mounted a ... camera An interesting question. I wouldn't be surprised if the camera made it worse. My guess is that people, when trusted, hold themselves to a higher standard. But with a camera present, they're allowed to turn off their own consciences. So people would be ingenious about palming a bagel so the camera wouldn't see, and think that if the camera's not seeing it, they're home free.

JimDabell 15y ago
This has actually been studied: http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/melissa.bateson/Bateson_etal_2006.pdf http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/melissa.bateson/Bateson_etal_2006... > We examined the effect of an image of a pair of eyes on contributions to an honesty box used to collect money for drinks in a university coffee room. People paid nearly three times as much for their drinks when eyes were displayed rather than a control image. This finding provides the first evidence from a naturalistic setting of the importance of cues of being watched, and hence reputational concerns, on human cooperative behaviour.
- matthavener 15y ago
  This is even more amazing, because the people know they're not being watched. I wonder how ingrained the image of eyes is? Could you achieve the same effect with a picture of a CCTV camera?
  - cannuk 15y ago
    that is a really interesting idea. With a fake camera people can see what they are supposed to avoid. With a picture of a camera, where they are unclear exactly where the camera is, I wonder how that changes things.
  - felipemnoa 15y ago
    The eyes probably remind them that they can get caught. They weigh their risks and decide that it is not worth it.
- ajuc 15y ago
  Wow. So if monitoring system is supposed to discourage vandalism, it's better for the camera to look like head with eyes looking at you?
- CWuestefeld 15y ago
  This has actually been studied Upvoted because it's interesting, but I don't think it directly addresses my thesis. The cited study is looking at the effect of subliminally suggesting that someone could be watching. I'm wondering about a situation where the subject really is being watched, or is at least made to believe that he is, and in a way that such that his evil behavior can be easily masked. Specifically, I theorize that if someone else asserts control over a person's moral behavior, then that subject will exercise less self-control, yielding to the authority as necessary.
- minikomi 15y ago
  In Japan many local businesses and delivery people, mums on bikes and so on have a "tiger mask" eyes sticker on their vehicle or side of their shop for just this reason. He's a well known crime fighting character.. And it's very distinctive. It also carries what I assume is his catch phrase - "I won't let crime pass me by" http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/06/11/9f4a169cfc44d712c8f57df12b15751d.jpg http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/06/11/9f4a169cfc44d712c8...

JimDabell 15y ago

This has actually been studied: http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/melissa.bateson/Bateson_etal_2006.pdf http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/melissa.bateson/Bateson_etal_2006... > We examined the effect of an image of a pair of eyes on contributions to an honesty box used to collect money for drinks in a university coffee room. People paid nearly three times as much for their drinks when eyes were displayed rather than a control image. This finding provides the first evidence from a naturalistic setting of the importance of cues of being watched, and hence reputational concerns, on human cooperative behaviour.

matthavener 15y ago
This is even more amazing, because the people know they're not being watched. I wonder how ingrained the image of eyes is? Could you achieve the same effect with a picture of a CCTV camera?
- cannuk 15y ago
  that is a really interesting idea. With a fake camera people can see what they are supposed to avoid. With a picture of a camera, where they are unclear exactly where the camera is, I wonder how that changes things.
- felipemnoa 15y ago
  The eyes probably remind them that they can get caught. They weigh their risks and decide that it is not worth it.
ajuc 15y ago
Wow. So if monitoring system is supposed to discourage vandalism, it's better for the camera to look like head with eyes looking at you?
CWuestefeld 15y ago
This has actually been studied Upvoted because it's interesting, but I don't think it directly addresses my thesis. The cited study is looking at the effect of subliminally suggesting that someone could be watching. I'm wondering about a situation where the subject really is being watched, or is at least made to believe that he is, and in a way that such that his evil behavior can be easily masked. Specifically, I theorize that if someone else asserts control over a person's moral behavior, then that subject will exercise less self-control, yielding to the authority as necessary.
minikomi 15y ago
In Japan many local businesses and delivery people, mums on bikes and so on have a "tiger mask" eyes sticker on their vehicle or side of their shop for just this reason. He's a well known crime fighting character.. And it's very distinctive. It also carries what I assume is his catch phrase - "I won't let crime pass me by" http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/06/11/9f4a169cfc44d712c8f57df12b15751d.jpg http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/06/11/9f4a169cfc44d712c8...