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No, nashashmi is implying hnews_account_1 is an adherent of the same Muslim splinter group (known as Ahmadis or pejoratively as Qadiyanis; see [1]) as Abdus Sal
by mjamil 4y ago
No, nashashmi is implying hnews_account_1 is an adherent of the same Muslim splinter group (known as Ahmadis or pejoratively as Qadiyanis; see [1]) as Abdus Salam [2], the sole Nobel Laureate that Pakistan has ever has. Salam was a prominent 20th physicist who predicted the existence of the W and Z bosons and the electroweak force.
nashashmi is gaslighting here by demonstrating two logical fallacies: both an appeal to authority ("Other nations also did this awful thing, so it must be OK") and putting forth a straw man argument ("I don't have any defense for what Pakistan did, so I'll accuse someone of bias").
I see no bias by hnews_account_1 here. I agree with hnews_account_1 in that the neighboring country they refer to (presumably India) would indeed have happily claimed Abdus Salam as one of their own and trumpeted his achievements; after all, Salam was educated in pre-partition India. In contrast, most Pakistanis today do not even know who Salam is because the Pakistan educational hierarchy deliberately ignores his achievements.
If anything, the notable bias (here, as shown by nashashmi, and in large, by the Pakistani establishment) is against the religious community that Salam belonged to. Since 1974, the Pakistani government (which polices who belongs to which religion, and forces you to declare your religion in government interactions) has imposed discrimination against this religious community by declaring them non-Muslim and preventing them from practicing their religion openly. Terror attacks against this community are common [3].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdus_Salam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdus_Salam
[3] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2020/11/pakistan-surge-in-targeted-killings-of-ahmadis/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2020/11/paki...
- hnews_account_1 4y agoYes, India has many faults but a long policy of offering refuge. They had refugee crises when the greeks were marching to their lands as well and had to resolve it. Of course, some recent decisions to favour hindu refugees is discriminative but it both fits the govt agenda and has some amount of logic in that there's wayyyy too much terrorist activity in the region. I still don't agree with it. But they also accepted the tibetans after the chinese drove them out and they accepted the zorastrians after the persians drove them out.
- nashashmi 4y agoWhat gaslighting? I never did curse. And I did not defend any country nor tarnish any group. What I did do is call out bias against a country and inappropriate behavior (cursing) in this forum. I’m no authority on the subject of dispute. And I frankly don’t care on this topic to be an SJW. But I will not be ok with information bias against a country when the source belongs to a persecuted group.