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Wow someone really ought to let the rest of the world outside of car-oriented America know. Outdoor dining sucks in most North American cities because you get

by wpm 4y ago

Wow someone really ought to let the rest of the world outside of car-oriented America know. Outdoor dining sucks in most North American cities because you get to eat right next to a bunch of loud, polluting car traffic zooming by 5 ft away. Last time I ate outside in Chicago I could reach out and touch an idling minivan. No thank you.

nytesky 4y ago
So will electrics cars help bringing an alfresco dining revolution?
- TheCoelacanth 4y ago
  No, because they are still noisy and polluting (a huge amount of air pollution comes from bits of tires flaking off, which is still a problem for EVs).
  - midoridensha 4y ago
    They're also extremely dangerous (just like gas cars). Crazy people and elderly people sometimes drive them into pedestrians and other crowded areas.
- CydeWeys 4y ago
  Getting rid of the cars certainly will. There's lots of streets in e.g. Manhattan that simply need to have the on-street parking removed, and some of them even need to have the car lanes removed entirely (the most obvious candidates are 32nd St in K-Town, Broadway between Times Square and Union Square Park, those few blocks in Little Italy with all the restaurants, and similar).
gnicholas 4y ago
dupe comment?
tbrownaw 4y ago
> Wow someone really ought to let the rest of the world outside of car-oriented America know. I live in the usa. The places I've been to that have outdoor tables and aren't in pedestrian areas tend to have a giant parking lot shielding them from any high-traffic roads. The place that was an exception to that was on the edge of a university campus with relatively slow traffic.
- Macha 4y ago
  Right, but in a lot of non-US cities, "pedestrian areas" covers a much greater proportion of restaurants. Secondly, even for restaurants _on_ roads for cars, they often have space "out back" where the buildings on street itself provides the noise dampening for the dining area. Since the buildings are terraced/joined, it's effectively a wall of buildings between the dining areas out back and the road itself.

by wpm 4y ago

nytesky 4y ago

So will electrics cars help bringing an alfresco dining revolution?

TheCoelacanth 4y ago
No, because they are still noisy and polluting (a huge amount of air pollution comes from bits of tires flaking off, which is still a problem for EVs).
- midoridensha 4y ago
  They're also extremely dangerous (just like gas cars). Crazy people and elderly people sometimes drive them into pedestrians and other crowded areas.
CydeWeys 4y ago
Getting rid of the cars certainly will. There's lots of streets in e.g. Manhattan that simply need to have the on-street parking removed, and some of them even need to have the car lanes removed entirely (the most obvious candidates are 32nd St in K-Town, Broadway between Times Square and Union Square Park, those few blocks in Little Italy with all the restaurants, and similar).

gnicholas 4y ago

dupe comment?

tbrownaw 4y ago

> Wow someone really ought to let the rest of the world outside of car-oriented America know. I live in the usa. The places I've been to that have outdoor tables and aren't in pedestrian areas tend to have a giant parking lot shielding them from any high-traffic roads. The place that was an exception to that was on the edge of a university campus with relatively slow traffic.

Macha 4y ago
Right, but in a lot of non-US cities, "pedestrian areas" covers a much greater proportion of restaurants. Secondly, even for restaurants _on_ roads for cars, they often have space "out back" where the buildings on street itself provides the noise dampening for the dining area. Since the buildings are terraced/joined, it's effectively a wall of buildings between the dining areas out back and the road itself.