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People are scared to say this, because they quickly get labeled a Christofascist or alt-right something or other, but it's true. Trads are definitely the counte

by Dig1t 4y ago

People are scared to say this, because they quickly get labeled a Christofascist or alt-right something or other, but it's true. Trads are definitely the counter culture now. Tim Dillon made a joke recently, something along the lines of "The most radical non-conformist thing you can do now is wear rosary beads". I thought it was kind of funny, but also because it's true.

undersuit 4y ago
I grew up with a number of rosaries. I would have to bring them into my Catholic grade school and then we'd walk to the church on campus and spend the next hour reciting rote verses and trying to keep track of where I was on the rosary. Wearing rosary beads sounds like a counter culture move against the church if you ask me. Rosaries are almost sacred.
- mattpallissard 4y ago
  Not sure why you're getting the down votes. I attended a Catholic school and wearing a rosary was certainly frowned upon for the exact reason you state.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Wearing rosary beads sounds like a counter culture move against the church if you ask me. Wearing a rosary around the neck is common and accepted in some Catholic cultures and frowned upon in others. There is no general Catholic religious objection to it, it is just a matter of local cultural practice. (Publicly flaunting it while engaging in scandalous behavior is more generally frowned upon, of course, as heaping hypocrisy on top of the already-bad behavior.) Wearing a 15-decade rosary on the hip, in the same place a soldier would wear a sword, is traditional for the Dominican order.
  - undersuit 4y ago
    I'm not objecting to wearing them, my old biases object to them being worn as a fashion element. They are a tool, not a sign of your personal faith. The only people I ever saw with Rosaries every day were the Nuns who used them every day, even the priests would dress down on occasion.
- whateveracct 4y ago
  I bought a rosary when I visited Italy [1]. Never believed in God myself, but the memorabilia is sick. [1] For a cousin-in-law's son's christening in an extremely old Church. Super cool.
ROTMetro 4y ago
Grew up catholic with a devout saint of a grandfather and the only people who I have seen wearing rosary beads were horrible, horrible cartel guys in prison.
teachrdan 4y ago
I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not. Catholics make up 23% of the US population. How can wearing rosary beads be non-conformist when Catholics are the single largest denomination in America? An astonishing SIX Supreme Court justices are Catholic. Was there ever a time a countercultural group had that kind of representation in government? Were there ever six justices who were hippies, or beatniks, or hobos? If you sincerely believe that > Trads are definitely the counter culture now. may I invite you to name another counter culture that comprised a majority of the US Supreme Court? The problem is that people conflate feeling aggrieved with being marginalized. The reality is that "trads" have plenty of representation and power, up to the governor or multiple states (like Desantis) and a former president. Self-identified trads may feel like they're exploited, or something. But the reality is they are a huge part of the population with ample political power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_the_United_... https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/391649/religion-supreme-court-justices.aspx https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/391649/relig...
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- Dig1t 4y ago
  Yes you are right that there are a lot of catholic people, we are talking about _culture_. How many TV shows, movies, or songs have come out in the last 10 years that featured Catholics in any way or catholic imagery, or even just general traditional values? Like maybe 1? How many TV shows, movies, and songs have come out featuring gay people or gay culture? A huge number. Compare this state to the 60's when the hippies were the counterculture, how many mainstream movies and shows came out featuring them? Were they the cultural mainstream? The answer is obviously no. Movies of that day were being made by the then-mainstream trads. We were never talking about representation in government. If you want to have an honest conversation about religious representation in government you will very quickly be labeled an anti-semite.
  - selimthegrim 4y ago
    You do realize there’s an entire TV network based out of Birmingham Alabama for all that stuff

by Dig1t 4y ago

undersuit 4y ago

I grew up with a number of rosaries. I would have to bring them into my Catholic grade school and then we'd walk to the church on campus and spend the next hour reciting rote verses and trying to keep track of where I was on the rosary. Wearing rosary beads sounds like a counter culture move against the church if you ask me. Rosaries are almost sacred.

mattpallissard 4y ago
Not sure why you're getting the down votes. I attended a Catholic school and wearing a rosary was certainly frowned upon for the exact reason you state.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> Wearing rosary beads sounds like a counter culture move against the church if you ask me. Wearing a rosary around the neck is common and accepted in some Catholic cultures and frowned upon in others. There is no general Catholic religious objection to it, it is just a matter of local cultural practice. (Publicly flaunting it while engaging in scandalous behavior is more generally frowned upon, of course, as heaping hypocrisy on top of the already-bad behavior.) Wearing a 15-decade rosary on the hip, in the same place a soldier would wear a sword, is traditional for the Dominican order.
- undersuit 4y ago
  I'm not objecting to wearing them, my old biases object to them being worn as a fashion element. They are a tool, not a sign of your personal faith. The only people I ever saw with Rosaries every day were the Nuns who used them every day, even the priests would dress down on occasion.
whateveracct 4y ago
I bought a rosary when I visited Italy [1]. Never believed in God myself, but the memorabilia is sick. [1] For a cousin-in-law's son's christening in an extremely old Church. Super cool.

ROTMetro 4y ago

Grew up catholic with a devout saint of a grandfather and the only people who I have seen wearing rosary beads were horrible, horrible cartel guys in prison.

teachrdan 4y ago

I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not. Catholics make up 23% of the US population. How can wearing rosary beads be non-conformist when Catholics are the single largest denomination in America? An astonishing SIX Supreme Court justices are Catholic. Was there ever a time a countercultural group had that kind of representation in government? Were there ever six justices who were hippies, or beatniks, or hobos? If you sincerely believe that > Trads are definitely the counter culture now. may I invite you to name another counter culture that comprised a majority of the US Supreme Court? The problem is that people conflate feeling aggrieved with being marginalized. The reality is that "trads" have plenty of representation and power, up to the governor or multiple states (like Desantis) and a former president. Self-identified trads may feel like they're exploited, or something. But the reality is they are a huge part of the population with ample political power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_the_United_... https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/391649/religion-supreme-court-justices.aspx https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/391649/relig...

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Dig1t 4y ago
Yes you are right that there are a lot of catholic people, we are talking about _culture_. How many TV shows, movies, or songs have come out in the last 10 years that featured Catholics in any way or catholic imagery, or even just general traditional values? Like maybe 1? How many TV shows, movies, and songs have come out featuring gay people or gay culture? A huge number. Compare this state to the 60's when the hippies were the counterculture, how many mainstream movies and shows came out featuring them? Were they the cultural mainstream? The answer is obviously no. Movies of that day were being made by the then-mainstream trads. We were never talking about representation in government. If you want to have an honest conversation about religious representation in government you will very quickly be labeled an anti-semite.
- selimthegrim 4y ago
  You do realize there’s an entire TV network based out of Birmingham Alabama for all that stuff