> The very premise of modern environmentalism necessitates human extinction by logical extension. No. At best that's a position held only by a tiny and extrem

> The very premise of modern environmentalism necessitates human extinction by logical extension. No. At best that's a position held only by a tiny and extreme minority. Consider "Permaculture", a school of applied ecology that's become popular all over the world since it was started by a government-employed ecologist and co. in the late 1970's. The explicit goal of this design school is to create and maintain agriculturally productive ecosystems that improve soil fertility and volume over time (the "permanent" part of "Permanent Agriculture".) With applied ecology we could probably increase the carrying capacity of the Earth to the point of having, say, 20B people while also increasing biodiversity and climate and long-term stability and all that good stuff.