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Register a company, say you did freelance consulting work in the gap. Can't disclose details due to NDAs, but it's fascinatingly close to the core competencies

Register a company, say you did freelance consulting work in the gap. Can't disclose details due to NDAs, but it's fascinatingly close to the core competencies of the place you're applying to.

SahAssar 4y ago
Isn't that pretty much fraud?
- clericbob 4y ago
  Isn't the practice of interviewing full of fraud on the part of interviewers already? Things like the dreaded '10 years experience in a 2 year old language' in programmer listings? Why shouldn't interviewees use whatever means they can, especially largely untraceable ones like this example, to even the field? Plus, if you've done any work for friends or other contacts in the meantime, you can just draw up an informal NDA after the fact and then it's not even a lie.
  - SahAssar 4y ago
    The '10 years experience in a 2 year old language' is an unrealistic whishlist, just like an applicant might have a (probably more realistic) wishlist for compensation or something else. I expect both parties to be truthful about the facts, and either party clearly lying about facts is fraud.
- galleywest200 4y ago
  I mean if you spent the time education yourself or taking classes or anything on improvement then you were doing what you said, minus a physical NDA.
  - SahAssar 4y ago
    Experience working in an area is different from studying it. Also the parent comment suggests to say that the experience was in "fascinatingly close to the core competencies of the place you're applying to", that's clearly not just polishing the truth.
    - FrontierPsych 4y ago
      R&D is an actual thing that corporations spend money on. If a company reads it and doesn't like it, then they don't like it. You are looking for the one who accepts your resume. I personally have started a company, and legit spend 9 months just researching and decided not to do it. Nothing wrong with that.
      - SahAssar 4y ago
        The original comment is suggesting that you outright lie on your resume. Then galleywest200 suggested that if you just do some studying it's okay to represent that as actual working experience, which is also lying. I don't understand why people think it's okay to outright lie on your resume.
        FrontierPsych 4y ago
        Well if you're going to be like that, then in the interview, answer all questions utterly and completely honestly. No lies of ommission or "spinning" answers to give the best first impression of yourself. So because of you now, if in an interview, someone asks me about my last boss, I'll say "he is an ignorant cunt that couldn't find his ass with both hands." Then they will say, "Wait...but you were self-employed and worked for yourself!" And I'll say, "Yes, I would not hire me under any circumstances whatsoever." I'll never get a job and starve to death, but hey, at least I'll be honest.

Register a company, say you did freelance consulting work in the gap. Can't disclose details due to NDAs, but it's fascinatingly close to the core competencies of the place you're applying to.

SahAssar 4y ago

Isn't that pretty much fraud?

clericbob 4y ago
Isn't the practice of interviewing full of fraud on the part of interviewers already? Things like the dreaded '10 years experience in a 2 year old language' in programmer listings? Why shouldn't interviewees use whatever means they can, especially largely untraceable ones like this example, to even the field? Plus, if you've done any work for friends or other contacts in the meantime, you can just draw up an informal NDA after the fact and then it's not even a lie.
- SahAssar 4y ago
  The '10 years experience in a 2 year old language' is an unrealistic whishlist, just like an applicant might have a (probably more realistic) wishlist for compensation or something else. I expect both parties to be truthful about the facts, and either party clearly lying about facts is fraud.
galleywest200 4y ago
I mean if you spent the time education yourself or taking classes or anything on improvement then you were doing what you said, minus a physical NDA.
- SahAssar 4y ago
  Experience working in an area is different from studying it. Also the parent comment suggests to say that the experience was in "fascinatingly close to the core competencies of the place you're applying to", that's clearly not just polishing the truth.
  - FrontierPsych 4y ago
    R&D is an actual thing that corporations spend money on. If a company reads it and doesn't like it, then they don't like it. You are looking for the one who accepts your resume. I personally have started a company, and legit spend 9 months just researching and decided not to do it. Nothing wrong with that.
    - SahAssar 4y ago
      The original comment is suggesting that you outright lie on your resume. Then galleywest200 suggested that if you just do some studying it's okay to represent that as actual working experience, which is also lying. I don't understand why people think it's okay to outright lie on your resume.
      - FrontierPsych 4y ago
        Well if you're going to be like that, then in the interview, answer all questions utterly and completely honestly. No lies of ommission or "spinning" answers to give the best first impression of yourself. So because of you now, if in an interview, someone asks me about my last boss, I'll say "he is an ignorant cunt that couldn't find his ass with both hands." Then they will say, "Wait...but you were self-employed and worked for yourself!" And I'll say, "Yes, I would not hire me under any circumstances whatsoever." I'll never get a job and starve to death, but hey, at least I'll be honest.