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Why I Like Nox

19 points by gilad 4y ago

WhyNotHugo 4y ago
Very good write-up. It has certainly made Nox pique my interest. Sadly, I don't think I'll use it. It's hard to justify jumping into a project using Tox and replacing it without reason. However, if at any time something breaks with Tox, or I need to so something that's feeling super hacking, I'll definitely consider it.
aquinas_ 4y ago
Note that you can play Nox online here: https://playnox.xyz/ https://playnox.xyz/
- butz 4y ago
  I love Nox!
- simonw 4y ago
  That's a different Nox. This article is about the Python testing utility: https://pypi.org/project/nox/ https://pypi.org/project/nox/
- thot_experiment 4y ago
  while this isn't about that Nox, I hoped it was and appreciate the link EDIT: after playing for a bit i remember just how many things i love this game has, I never had a group of people to play with so I never spent much time in it, but the gameplay seems immaculate i spent a lot of time with Bloodline Champions and Battlerite which are descendants in some way, and i'm glad Nox is still around in this form (with multiplayer?!). i may have to host a server
  - veilrap 4y ago
    I also only clicked on this link because I assumed it was Nox (the game).
  - txtsd 4y ago
    There is also opennox [1] [1]: https://github.com/noxworld-dev/opennox https://github.com/noxworld-dev/opennox
- veilrap 4y ago
  I had a huge amount of fun playing this when it came out. It was a little clunky, and very quirky, but it had a lot of good ideas in it. I wish it had been more successful in the market.
- braingenious 4y ago
  It is a downright shame that that game never got a sequel.
jayofdoom 4y ago
I did a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAkMVIBTFbQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAkMVIBTFbQ converting, as a proof of concept, an OpenStack project to use nox. I liked it, and anytime I went "oh no, it doesn't do X" I found it does, and I learned how. It's always hard to evaluate a young project vs an older one; but nox seems good and I would likely use it for a greenfield project in the future.
lmm 4y ago
Wow, I'm actually surprised at how unconvinced I am. Moving from a declarative config syntax to arbitrary Python is rarely a good idea, and "the point of this is to run commands" feels pretty flat to me - after all, the "point" of setup.py was to run commands, but we all know the problems that caused.
- yen223 4y ago
  "This declarative configuration format is great, but having to define 100 items by hand is tedious and error-prone. Let's make a DSL that supports conditions and loops!" "This custom DSL is great, but there's zero tooling for it. Let's use a real language instead!" "This Python-based config is great, but my config file takes ages to run, and even longer to understand. Let's make a simple declarative configuration format!"
  - mcronce 4y ago
    The circle of life

19 points by gilad 4y ago

Very good write-up. It has certainly made Nox pique my interest. Sadly, I don't think I'll use it. It's hard to justify jumping into a project using Tox and replacing it without reason. However, if at any time something breaks with Tox, or I need to so something that's feeling super hacking, I'll definitely consider it.

aquinas_ 4y ago

Note that you can play Nox online here: https://playnox.xyz/ https://playnox.xyz/

butz 4y ago
I love Nox!
simonw 4y ago
That's a different Nox. This article is about the Python testing utility: https://pypi.org/project/nox/ https://pypi.org/project/nox/
thot_experiment 4y ago
while this isn't about that Nox, I hoped it was and appreciate the link EDIT: after playing for a bit i remember just how many things i love this game has, I never had a group of people to play with so I never spent much time in it, but the gameplay seems immaculate i spent a lot of time with Bloodline Champions and Battlerite which are descendants in some way, and i'm glad Nox is still around in this form (with multiplayer?!). i may have to host a server
- veilrap 4y ago
  I also only clicked on this link because I assumed it was Nox (the game).
- txtsd 4y ago
  There is also opennox [1] [1]: https://github.com/noxworld-dev/opennox https://github.com/noxworld-dev/opennox
veilrap 4y ago
I had a huge amount of fun playing this when it came out. It was a little clunky, and very quirky, but it had a lot of good ideas in it. I wish it had been more successful in the market.
braingenious 4y ago
It is a downright shame that that game never got a sequel.

jayofdoom 4y ago

I did a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAkMVIBTFbQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAkMVIBTFbQ converting, as a proof of concept, an OpenStack project to use nox. I liked it, and anytime I went "oh no, it doesn't do X" I found it does, and I learned how. It's always hard to evaluate a young project vs an older one; but nox seems good and I would likely use it for a greenfield project in the future.

lmm 4y ago

Wow, I'm actually surprised at how unconvinced I am. Moving from a declarative config syntax to arbitrary Python is rarely a good idea, and "the point of this is to run commands" feels pretty flat to me - after all, the "point" of setup.py was to run commands, but we all know the problems that caused.

yen223 4y ago
"This declarative configuration format is great, but having to define 100 items by hand is tedious and error-prone. Let's make a DSL that supports conditions and loops!" "This custom DSL is great, but there's zero tooling for it. Let's use a real language instead!" "This Python-based config is great, but my config file takes ages to run, and even longer to understand. Let's make a simple declarative configuration format!"
- mcronce 4y ago
  The circle of life