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Climate change has only one priority: stop releasing carbon into the atmosphere. We're all dead if we don't and we cannot afford to add one tiny extra burden o

• ramesh31 4y ago
  This is like saying "weight loss has only one priority; eat less food and exercise more". Of course, but people simply won't. So what do we do?
  • mavhc 4y ago
    Descend into a planet of billions of migrants, mass famine, ultra right wing governments, while the population drops by billions
    • korroziya 4y ago
      >while the population drops by billions Easiest way to reduce GHG emissions right there.
      • adrianN 4y ago
        But it's insufficient, both because it doesn't reduce emissions to zero and because it's much too slow to prevent catastrophic warming (indeed, if the population drop comes as a consequence of catastrophic warming, all is already lost).
    • b4je7d7wb 4y ago
      Oh no, not the right wing governments.
  • rootusrootus 4y ago
    > This is like saying "weight loss has only one priority; eat less food and exercise more". I think this is far more reasonable. Want to weigh less? Eat a bit less, move a bit more. OP said eliminate all carbon emissions. That's like starving to lose weight. A good compromise is "emit a little less, plant a few more trees" or something along those lines, which is basically what we're doing. We already know it won't be enough to avoid consequences, as those are already manifesting, but it's the most realistic path forward by far.
  • t43562 4y ago
    We must only do what is absolutely critical to get benefit. The developed world will have to help the rest with technology but IMO the developing world should not be sitting there waiting for help. A lot of the money is going to have to be spent in the first world ... first to get the technology down in cost but there are existing technologies that developing countries can use now and it should be in their budgets instead of paying for their oversized army or paying ghost salaries to government workers who are all relatives of the minister. I mean these countries will need to act with a discipline and honesty that they are unaccustomed to. We need to get their populations worked up to demand it. (I am from Zimbabwe which is why this bugs me) To pretend that some people are going to entirely take care of others is demotivating and wrong. Most of us are going to have to take strain. We are also going to have to de-emphasise NIMBY and other concerns that aren't absolutely critical that might block our investments in clean energy.
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• collyw 4y ago
  Models. Prediction with no long term history of being correct. It's a doomsday cult. I would recommend going back to watch Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth and see how many of the catastrophic predictions have come true.
  • Swenrekcah 4y ago
    Exxon mobile scientists predicted all this in the 1970s with pretty good accuracy: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-64241994 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-64241994
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    • collyw 4y ago
      The climate has always changed. Predicting the climate getting warmer when coming out of a mini ice age is hardly ground breaking. We were promised Manhattan would be underwater by now, that glaciers would be gone. https://nypost.com/2020/01/10/the-telling-tale-of-glacier-national-parks-gone-by-2020-signs/ https://nypost.com/2020/01/10/the-telling-tale-of-glacier-na...
      • Swenrekcah 4y ago
        This is cherrypicking. Sure, predictions vary and some turn out to be too pessimistic, others too optimistic. The general trend is clear however and has been for decades.
        • collyw 4y ago
          Cherrypicking is exactly what both sides do. Every extreme weather event is now pointed at as "evidence". It would be nice to have both sides heard and debated instead of the hysteria led media we get. Look into Bjorn Lomborg. I have no idea how accurate his stuff is, but he is the only one that actually seems to take a pragmatic approach to the problem and looks at the bigger picture
• willnonya 4y ago
  This comes across as histrionics based on misinterpreting the worst case predictions to drive yet more unfounded FUD.
  • t43562 4y ago
    If you think about it we are all tempted to ignore a problem and hope that our lives won't be changed. It's very common in history to find resistance to necessary change especially when it's inconvenient.
    • climatecult 4y ago
      I wish more people were tempted to ignore the problem. Seems today a lot more people are tempted to become social justice influencers and/or make a profit off of it.