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I love being part of the modern human experiment where we’re subjected to arbitary change without any prior tests. (I don’t love it that much)

micromacrofoot 4y ago
Compared to what? the good old days when we were worshiping the sun? We've always been like this.
throwanem 4y ago
"Move fast and break things."
- onion2k 4y ago
  As a middle-aged man I am fairly sure that I would break if I tried to move fast.
  - nebula8804 4y ago
    I guess in the old days...people just died younger? (as a result of the risk taking of moving around quickly)
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
    - Tams80 4y ago
      Well, if you got, say, a compound fracture, you were at least losing the limb. And in that process just hope the 'surgeon'/butcher was quick and not too drunk, and that luck was on your side in terms of bacteria.
  - jay_kyburz 4y ago
    I did myself some kind of old man injury bodysurfing in Mollymook last week. A quick bust of freestyle swimming to get on the wave busted something in my arm. I guess I should slow down now I'm 50
    - onion2k 4y ago
      I'm 45. I pulled a muscle when I sneezed recently. The end is nigh.
      - zimpenfish 4y ago
        I'm some way past 45 and I hurt my arm cutting bubble wrap early in December. It's only just now back to normal.
        throwanem 4y ago
        Be glad of it. I did something unpleasant to a rotator cuff packing for a move last year and I'm not sure I'll get away without a surgical repair.
- moffkalast 4y ago
  "Move fast and break your neck"
skybrian 4y ago
Before that, people were “experimented on” by viruses, bacteria, and parasites. Also indoor smoke, etc. And how do you think folk remedies were tested? To fuck around and find out is not modern, it’s the human condition.
- twalla 4y ago
  To fuck around is human, to find out is divine.
  - graeber_28927 4y ago
    Is this a thing? Or did you just spawn a quote for future generations to attribute to anonymous and Mark Twain in the coming centuries?
    - generalizations 4y ago
      It's known as the malapropism.
      - throwanem 4y ago
        In this case specifically of "to err is human; to forgive is divine," which sounds to me like Johnson but I'm not going to try looking up the attribution because, in this context in particular, the universe's love for irony all but guarantees I'll get it wrong.
        throwanem 4y ago
        ...it was Alexander Pope.
      - twalla 4y ago
        Nobody uses those anymore, they're too popular. English language stackexchange offered up "paraphrasing" and "snowclone", which I've never heard of. https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/292853/what-is-it-called-when-you-change-a-well-known-quote-to-suit-your-subject https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/292853/what-is-i...
biohax2015 4y ago
Half of all humans who ever lived did not make it past the age of five. We are living in the best time. I will take any of these problems over not knowing where my next meal is coming from, or dying from infection after a paper cut.
- thefaux 4y ago
  That is a reasonable personal position but it's not universal. It implicitly seems to assume that a long life of relative ease and physical health is best no matter how that is achieved. Personally I'd prefer a relatively short life of profound meaning and autonomy (even if it involves painful loss and physical suffering) over living in a rat's cage for 80 years, kept alive by my captors.
  - Filligree 4y ago
    > Personally I'd prefer a relatively short life of profound meaning and autonomy (even if it involves painful loss and physical suffering) over living in a rat's cage for 80 years, kept alive by my captors. Historically, that hasn't been an option. "A relatively short life full of painful loss and physical suffering, living in a rat's cage" would be a better description of the median serf.
    - thefaux 4y ago
      > Historically, that hasn't been an option. What about hunter gatherers? Even in the history of our more recent western ancestors, people have always made radical decisions to live lives outside of the mainstream. Religious fanatics and martyrs come to mind. > "A relatively short life full of painful loss and physical suffering, living in a rat's cage" would be a better description of the median serf. You are leaving out the part I said about profound meaning. Mental suffering matters as much as physical suffering and a lack of meaning is a sure cause of mental suffering and is experienced by many if not most modern information workers to varying degrees.
      - sertsa 4y ago
Tagbert 4y ago
Do you think the tungsten bulbs were tested prior to deployment?
- avgcorrection 4y ago
  You don’t think that I count anything to do with lightbulbs as being part of the “modern humans” era??
  - alfor 4y ago
    The sun is the tried and true method. But I think it’s possible it’s going to get worse because of LED, but I don’t know if the amount of power make a difference. Would be simple to test with a bunch of mice: do AB tests, measure inflammations markers.

micromacrofoot 4y ago

Compared to what? the good old days when we were worshiping the sun? We've always been like this.

throwanem 4y ago

"Move fast and break things."

onion2k 4y ago
As a middle-aged man I am fairly sure that I would break if I tried to move fast.
- nebula8804 4y ago
  I guess in the old days...people just died younger? (as a result of the risk taking of moving around quickly)
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - Tams80 4y ago
    Well, if you got, say, a compound fracture, you were at least losing the limb. And in that process just hope the 'surgeon'/butcher was quick and not too drunk, and that luck was on your side in terms of bacteria.
- jay_kyburz 4y ago
  I did myself some kind of old man injury bodysurfing in Mollymook last week. A quick bust of freestyle swimming to get on the wave busted something in my arm. I guess I should slow down now I'm 50
  - onion2k 4y ago
    I'm 45. I pulled a muscle when I sneezed recently. The end is nigh.
    - zimpenfish 4y ago
      I'm some way past 45 and I hurt my arm cutting bubble wrap early in December. It's only just now back to normal.
      - throwanem 4y ago
        Be glad of it. I did something unpleasant to a rotator cuff packing for a move last year and I'm not sure I'll get away without a surgical repair.
moffkalast 4y ago
"Move fast and break your neck"

skybrian 4y ago

Before that, people were “experimented on” by viruses, bacteria, and parasites. Also indoor smoke, etc. And how do you think folk remedies were tested? To fuck around and find out is not modern, it’s the human condition.

twalla 4y ago
To fuck around is human, to find out is divine.
- graeber_28927 4y ago
  Is this a thing? Or did you just spawn a quote for future generations to attribute to anonymous and Mark Twain in the coming centuries?
  - generalizations 4y ago
    It's known as the malapropism.
    - throwanem 4y ago
      In this case specifically of "to err is human; to forgive is divine," which sounds to me like Johnson but I'm not going to try looking up the attribution because, in this context in particular, the universe's love for irony all but guarantees I'll get it wrong.
      - throwanem 4y ago
        ...it was Alexander Pope.
    - twalla 4y ago
      Nobody uses those anymore, they're too popular. English language stackexchange offered up "paraphrasing" and "snowclone", which I've never heard of. https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/292853/what-is-it-called-when-you-change-a-well-known-quote-to-suit-your-subject https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/292853/what-is-i...

biohax2015 4y ago

Half of all humans who ever lived did not make it past the age of five. We are living in the best time. I will take any of these problems over not knowing where my next meal is coming from, or dying from infection after a paper cut.

thefaux 4y ago
That is a reasonable personal position but it's not universal. It implicitly seems to assume that a long life of relative ease and physical health is best no matter how that is achieved. Personally I'd prefer a relatively short life of profound meaning and autonomy (even if it involves painful loss and physical suffering) over living in a rat's cage for 80 years, kept alive by my captors.
- Filligree 4y ago
  > Personally I'd prefer a relatively short life of profound meaning and autonomy (even if it involves painful loss and physical suffering) over living in a rat's cage for 80 years, kept alive by my captors. Historically, that hasn't been an option. "A relatively short life full of painful loss and physical suffering, living in a rat's cage" would be a better description of the median serf.
  - thefaux 4y ago
    > Historically, that hasn't been an option. What about hunter gatherers? Even in the history of our more recent western ancestors, people have always made radical decisions to live lives outside of the mainstream. Religious fanatics and martyrs come to mind. > "A relatively short life full of painful loss and physical suffering, living in a rat's cage" would be a better description of the median serf. You are leaving out the part I said about profound meaning. Mental suffering matters as much as physical suffering and a lack of meaning is a sure cause of mental suffering and is experienced by many if not most modern information workers to varying degrees.
    - sertsa 4y ago

Tagbert 4y ago

Do you think the tungsten bulbs were tested prior to deployment?

avgcorrection 4y ago
You don’t think that I count anything to do with lightbulbs as being part of the “modern humans” era??
- alfor 4y ago
  The sun is the tried and true method. But I think it’s possible it’s going to get worse because of LED, but I don’t know if the amount of power make a difference. Would be simple to test with a bunch of mice: do AB tests, measure inflammations markers.