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> on account of not blocking / removing sacrilegious contents > Wikipedia was approached for blocking / removal of the said contents > platform neither compli

> on account of not blocking / removing sacrilegious contents > Wikipedia was approached for blocking / removal of the said contents > platform neither complied by removing the blasphemous content nor appeared before the Authority. Anyone know what sacrilegious/blasphemous content they are referring to?

cactusplant7374 4y ago
Are there artistic depictions of Muhammed on Wikipedia?
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  Yes, and that's been the cause for several previous blocks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Pakistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Pakist...
- capableweb 4y ago
  Yes, there is in fact an entire category dedicated to "Cultural depictions of Muhammad": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cultural_depictions_of_Muhammad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cultural_depictions_o... Includes a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Best_Friends https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Best_Friends (South Park episode) which contains an image of Muhammad.
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  There's an entire article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad
- nimbius 4y ago
  while it may be tempting to condense the concern to the most virulent objections of an extreme, it bears remembrance that Pakistan is the only country to have been created in the name of Islam. the Holy Quran and Sunnah are effectively the books by which this nation is governed, and as such any charge of blasphemy is taken with a seriousness bordering on the academic. this blasphemy charge could stem from any of the big 8, but the specific charges would be laid out in an almost arduous detail to the The Federal Shariat Court to make the case. only the supreme court of Pakistan can overrule the FSC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_in_Pakistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_in_Pakistan daily Pakistan reports this is due to 'sacrilege,' a far less dire charge: https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/01-Feb-2023/pakistan-degrades-wikipedia-services-for-48-hours-over-sacrilegious-content https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/01-Feb-2023/pakistan-degrade... the PTA (telecom authority) is committed to ensuring a safe online experience for all Pakistani citizens according to local laws, similar to content laws in the US and UK.
  - jacooper 4y ago
    > it bears remembrance that Pakistan is the only country to have been created in the name of Islam. No? Saudi Arabia exists
    - valarauko 4y ago
      Well, no. Saudi Arabia is the portion of the Ottoman Empire that Ibn Saud grabbed in the early 20th century from other rival warlords. Islam and Sharia were definately guiding principles in administration, but it was no more Islamic than its neighbors. Pakistan is different since its defining trait was to be carved out as a homeland for the Muslims of South Asia, rather than anything inherent in the land itself - its citizenry was outlined long before its actual land borders.
  - mynameisvlad 4y ago
    > it bears remembrance that Pakistan is the only country to have been created in the name of Islam. the Holy Quran and Sunnah are effectively the books by which this nation is governed Oh so that makes censorship ok? Bigotry is fine too, it’s all in the name of Islam, right? Why didn’t you say so, that obviously activates the “free from all consequences” card. /s This is not the catch-all excuse you think it is.
  - selectodude 4y ago
    The Islamic Republic of Iran is confused by this comment.
- bobmaxup 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_carto...
- _Algernon_ 4y ago
  The Wikipedia article about Charlie Hebdo has one. I assume it is not the only one: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_issue_No._1178 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_issue_No._1178
boomboomsubban 4y ago
This article https://www.geo.tv/latest/468510-pakistan-warns-blocking-wikipedia-over-non-removal-of-sacrilegious-content https://www.geo.tv/latest/468510-pakistan-warns-blocking-wik... says depictions of Muhammad and saying this person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Masroor_Ahmad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Masroor_Ahmad is a Muslim. I'm not sure if that press conference was over the 2020 issue or the current one.
- hnews_account_1 4y ago
  They disowned their one Nobel laureate and maybe one of the greatest minds of his generation because of his Islam being different from their Islam. That place is a failed nation. Thank fuck for the internet so the people aren’t insulated from the outside world.
  - scientism019324 4y ago
    Same thing happened to James Watson.
    - anoonmoose 4y ago
      If I'm reading about the correct James Watson, this is not a fair or accurate comparison. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson#Comments_on_race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson#Comments_on_race Edit: the psychology of creating an account to make that particular comment is fascinating to me.
      - anthk 4y ago
        >Latin lover. Ah, yes, the "Latin" skin pigment. From black in the Caribbean, to nordic White/Ginger found in Spain and Chile/Argentina. Very accurate.
    - acdha 4y ago
      No, it didn't — neither Crick or Watson had any consequences for their speech anywhere near the level of being exiled or facing prosecution. An institution cutting ties after you spend years making racist claims is a disappointing tarnish to your career, but it's nothing like going to jail or potentially facing the execution (Pakistan has the death penalty for blasphemy).

cactusplant7374 4y ago

Are there artistic depictions of Muhammed on Wikipedia?

ceejayoz 4y ago
Yes, and that's been the cause for several previous blocks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Pakistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Pakist...
capableweb 4y ago
Yes, there is in fact an entire category dedicated to "Cultural depictions of Muhammad": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cultural_depictions_of_Muhammad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cultural_depictions_o... Includes a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Best_Friends https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Best_Friends (South Park episode) which contains an image of Muhammad.
jeroenhd 4y ago
There's an entire article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad
nimbius 4y ago
while it may be tempting to condense the concern to the most virulent objections of an extreme, it bears remembrance that Pakistan is the only country to have been created in the name of Islam. the Holy Quran and Sunnah are effectively the books by which this nation is governed, and as such any charge of blasphemy is taken with a seriousness bordering on the academic. this blasphemy charge could stem from any of the big 8, but the specific charges would be laid out in an almost arduous detail to the The Federal Shariat Court to make the case. only the supreme court of Pakistan can overrule the FSC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_in_Pakistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_in_Pakistan daily Pakistan reports this is due to 'sacrilege,' a far less dire charge: https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/01-Feb-2023/pakistan-degrades-wikipedia-services-for-48-hours-over-sacrilegious-content https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/01-Feb-2023/pakistan-degrade... the PTA (telecom authority) is committed to ensuring a safe online experience for all Pakistani citizens according to local laws, similar to content laws in the US and UK.
- jacooper 4y ago
  > it bears remembrance that Pakistan is the only country to have been created in the name of Islam. No? Saudi Arabia exists
  - valarauko 4y ago
    Well, no. Saudi Arabia is the portion of the Ottoman Empire that Ibn Saud grabbed in the early 20th century from other rival warlords. Islam and Sharia were definately guiding principles in administration, but it was no more Islamic than its neighbors. Pakistan is different since its defining trait was to be carved out as a homeland for the Muslims of South Asia, rather than anything inherent in the land itself - its citizenry was outlined long before its actual land borders.
- mynameisvlad 4y ago
  > it bears remembrance that Pakistan is the only country to have been created in the name of Islam. the Holy Quran and Sunnah are effectively the books by which this nation is governed Oh so that makes censorship ok? Bigotry is fine too, it’s all in the name of Islam, right? Why didn’t you say so, that obviously activates the “free from all consequences” card. /s This is not the catch-all excuse you think it is.
- selectodude 4y ago
  The Islamic Republic of Iran is confused by this comment.
bobmaxup 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_carto...
_Algernon_ 4y ago
The Wikipedia article about Charlie Hebdo has one. I assume it is not the only one: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_issue_No._1178 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_issue_No._1178

boomboomsubban 4y ago

This article https://www.geo.tv/latest/468510-pakistan-warns-blocking-wikipedia-over-non-removal-of-sacrilegious-content https://www.geo.tv/latest/468510-pakistan-warns-blocking-wik... says depictions of Muhammad and saying this person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Masroor_Ahmad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Masroor_Ahmad is a Muslim. I'm not sure if that press conference was over the 2020 issue or the current one.

hnews_account_1 4y ago
They disowned their one Nobel laureate and maybe one of the greatest minds of his generation because of his Islam being different from their Islam. That place is a failed nation. Thank fuck for the internet so the people aren’t insulated from the outside world.
- scientism019324 4y ago
  Same thing happened to James Watson.
  - anoonmoose 4y ago
    If I'm reading about the correct James Watson, this is not a fair or accurate comparison. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson#Comments_on_race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson#Comments_on_race Edit: the psychology of creating an account to make that particular comment is fascinating to me.
    - anthk 4y ago
      >Latin lover. Ah, yes, the "Latin" skin pigment. From black in the Caribbean, to nordic White/Ginger found in Spain and Chile/Argentina. Very accurate.
  - acdha 4y ago
    No, it didn't — neither Crick or Watson had any consequences for their speech anywhere near the level of being exiled or facing prosecution. An institution cutting ties after you spend years making racist claims is a disappointing tarnish to your career, but it's nothing like going to jail or potentially facing the execution (Pakistan has the death penalty for blasphemy).