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But I am not. And you know, if I really want to watch Rings of Power so bad I will just download it from BitTorrent. I definitely understand this stance, but i

But I am not. And you know, if I really want to watch Rings of Power so bad I will just download it from BitTorrent. I definitely understand this stance, but it undermines your whole argument by bringing up the fact that prime is not just about shipping. Shipping is one of the benefits, but there are many others. If you don't feel it's worth it, then definitely cancel, but saying you'll steal some of it feels dishonest. I think maybe a better way to get the same point across is that you could watch it at a friend's house, or wait for the dvd. I just canceled prime, but for the opposite reason. I'm so close to multiple warehouses that it's not really any faster than if I just order it regularly. I also pirate their content from time to time, but not because I don't want to pay for it, because the interface in the app sucks. On a complete tangent, I wish someone had a service where I could buy physical media, and have it streamed for free until the day after it is delivered.

PaulHoule 4y ago
You are right about the moral aspect, it does undermine my case. But I do think that 90% of the "benefits" of Prime are things that people would only think are valuable in the context of a press release. None of it is going to make up for the loss of 2-day shipping, which is unique I think because it adds value to AMZN's core service. There was a time when AMZN operated at a loss to grow market share, that was a time when it was really preferable to other retailers. There was a time when AMZN was the first retailer I would look to to buy something online. Over the last three years it gradually became the last. Today it is more like: I go to Best Buy in person, see the part I want is not in stock, I order it from AMZN, get it from AMZN, go back to Best Buy, see it is in stock at Best Buy, I buy it at Best Buy (which doesn't redline my community with substandard service) and I return to AMZN. I have never been that way before and would never do it to another retailer but after suffering the insult of losing two-day shipping right after AMZN boasted that people in some anointed ZIP codes would be getting faster shipping, AMZN is at the bottom of my list. It is a policy that is penny wise and pound foolish because I am sure thousands of people have read my complaints on the topic and I am sure I've helped at least one other person quit. Some industries are senescent and ripe for disruption, but there is a long line of retailers that want the dollars that AMZN is chasing.
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runako 4y ago
> On a complete tangent, I wish someone had a service where I could buy physical media, and have it streamed for free until the day after it is delivered. In the late '90s/early 2000s, there were a few services that did exactly this. I remember buying CDs that included details on how to also stream/download the music. (I believe I also bought at least one DVD that worked similarly.) Physical + streaming was tried in the market by several competitors, and the market ultimately didn't want it.

PaulHoule 4y ago

You are right about the moral aspect, it does undermine my case. But I do think that 90% of the "benefits" of Prime are things that people would only think are valuable in the context of a press release. None of it is going to make up for the loss of 2-day shipping, which is unique I think because it adds value to AMZN's core service. There was a time when AMZN operated at a loss to grow market share, that was a time when it was really preferable to other retailers. There was a time when AMZN was the first retailer I would look to to buy something online. Over the last three years it gradually became the last. Today it is more like: I go to Best Buy in person, see the part I want is not in stock, I order it from AMZN, get it from AMZN, go back to Best Buy, see it is in stock at Best Buy, I buy it at Best Buy (which doesn't redline my community with substandard service) and I return to AMZN. I have never been that way before and would never do it to another retailer but after suffering the insult of losing two-day shipping right after AMZN boasted that people in some anointed ZIP codes would be getting faster shipping, AMZN is at the bottom of my list. It is a policy that is penny wise and pound foolish because I am sure thousands of people have read my complaints on the topic and I am sure I've helped at least one other person quit. Some industries are senescent and ripe for disruption, but there is a long line of retailers that want the dollars that AMZN is chasing.

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runako 4y ago

> On a complete tangent, I wish someone had a service where I could buy physical media, and have it streamed for free until the day after it is delivered. In the late '90s/early 2000s, there were a few services that did exactly this. I remember buying CDs that included details on how to also stream/download the music. (I believe I also bought at least one DVD that worked similarly.) Physical + streaming was tried in the market by several competitors, and the market ultimately didn't want it.