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TLDR: it affect every cells of the body, not just the retina, mitochondria need infrared (just like we need UV for vid-D) I healed my eczema with red light (in
by alfor 4y ago
TLDR: it affect every cells of the body, not just the retina, mitochondria need infrared (just like we need UV for vid-D)
I healed my eczema with red light (infrared heater)
It turn out that infrared is needed by all our cells to get rid of inflammation.
We are in an epidemic of autoimmune diseases partially caused by the lack of infrared.
The spectrum of halogen lights is continuous and closer to what we would get outside. Tungsten bulbs are also continuous but more tilted toward infrared. I think we will have unintended consequence of everyone switching to led lights: the "wasted" infrared are actually useful for our body.
It is wise to assume that almost everything from the natural environment is connected to our biology. As we move further away from it we stack up the health problems self inflicted: crooked teeth, wisdom teeth, miopia, acnee, vid-d deficiency, autoimmune diseases, depression, anxiety, etc.
Search "Medcram infrared" it’s a doctor that explain the science behind it.
- sharatvir 4y ago> As we move further away from it we stack up the health problems self inflicted: crooked teeth, wisdom teeth, miopia, acnee, vid-d deficiency, autoimmune diseases, depression, anxiety, etc The rest of these seem intuitively correct but could you expand on the dental problems?
- alfor 4y agoWe eat softer food, the pressure from chewing is necessary for our jaw to develop properly. Without it our jaw is smaller leaving not enough space for all teeths. Smaller jaw also mean smaller airways in the sinus and throat making snoring and sleep apnea more common with huge repercussions.
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- jjcc 4y agoNot the op but I read some article saying that it it is caused by the dietary product from corn fed cow as opposed to the traditional dietary product. Supplements with Vit K2 is an easy fix.
- anthk 4y agoEurope is not corn but mainly wheat based, but it's the same after all.
- jodrellblank 4y agoLook for images from Weston Price’s book “nutrition and physical degeneration”, he toured the world a hundred years ago taking photos of teeth - it’s surprising that native tribal people all over had wide mouths not crowded teeth, no need for braces, they had white teeth and no need for fillings. Compared to today many in the west have narrow lower jaw, crowded crooked teeth and need many fillings. Weston Price attributed it to nutritional deficit in our diets and suggested things like eating more organ meats, eat how traditional people did. Then there’s sugar and fizzy drinks, sticky sweets, refined flour, cultivars of fruits chosen for sweetness, all very good for bacteria growing on the teeth causing tooth decay, and not so prevalent in the past with food being less sugary. More recently John Mew has put forth the idea that chewing thoroughly involves pushing up with the tongue which is a strong muscle and it pushed out on the jaws from inside; over a childhood of chewing that causes the jaws to widen and teeth to have room. These days with processed convenience foods you can swallow in a couple of bites, children aren’t chewing as tough food for as long, and he suggests that’s a contributor to why modern people have teeth crowding and narrow jaw problems.
- autoexec 4y ago> These days with processed convenience foods you can swallow in a couple of bites, children aren’t chewing as tough food for as long you'd think bubblegum would have helped with this. I don't think I've ever seen a kid turn down a gumball
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- eep_social 4y agoOthers have answered already, but I wanted to mention the book Breath by James Nestor which has a chapter on chewing in particular. I can recommend the whole book if this piques your interest.
- jononomo 4y agoHomo Sapiens have been on Earth in their current form for 200,000 years, and for 95% of that time (until agriculture emerged 10,000 years ago), they were primarily hunters, meaning they ate meat primarily. From an economist's perspective, the return on hunting is something like 50x the return on gathering because of the huge number of calories one can acquire by killing a large fatty animal. I.e., six hours of hunting will yield you 50x the calories you could acquire from six hours of gathering. Competing with monkeys and parrots for fruit doesn't make sense when you could kill an antelope instead. (See the work of Miki Ben-Dor for more on this). And it turns out that if you only eat meat, you develop a stronger, wider, and more attractive jaw, your wisdom teeth come in properly, you never develop cavities, and you have good gum health. I avoided all plant-based calories in 2021, and when I went to the dentist for a cleaning, she specifically commented on my unusually good oral hygiene and gum health. Plants really aren't good for our bodies, including our gums and teeth. Today we think of grains, fruits, and vegetables as being less expensive than fresh meat, but that is an artifact of technology and industrial farming -- it does not reflect the natural state of man.
- soperj 4y ago> Homo Sapiens have been on Earth in their current form for 200,000 years, and for 95% of that time (until agriculture emerged 10,000 years ago), they were primarily hunters, meaning they ate meat primarily. Hunters and Gatherers. Likely gathered a whole hell of a lot of not meat as well.
- jononomo 4y agoWould you spend $500 at the grocery store to buy 3000 calories worth of fruits and vegetables if you could instead spend $10 to buy 3000 calories worth of steak? Consider the fact that fruits and vegetables contain fiber, which human beings cannot digest, whereas steak does not.
- soperj 4y agoThere are close to 1800 calories in a 5 pound bag of potatoes vs 700 calories in a 10 oz steak. Pretty sure your dollar amounts there are vastly different from what is found at the grocery store.
- cutthegrass2 4y agoCheck out "The Dental Diet" by Steven Lin. He summarises the research by Weston Price nicely.
- avgcorrection 4y agoI love being part of the modern human experiment where we’re subjected to arbitary change without any prior tests. (I don’t love it that much)
- micromacrofoot 4y agoCompared to what? the good old days when we were worshiping the sun? We've always been like this.
- throwanem 4y ago"Move fast and break things."
- onion2k 4y agoAs a middle-aged man I am fairly sure that I would break if I tried to move fast.
- nebula8804 4y agoI guess in the old days...people just died younger? (as a result of the risk taking of moving around quickly)
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- Tams80 4y agoWell, if you got, say, a compound fracture, you were at least losing the limb. And in that process just hope the 'surgeon'/butcher was quick and not too drunk, and that luck was on your side in terms of bacteria.
- jay_kyburz 4y agoI did myself some kind of old man injury bodysurfing in Mollymook last week. A quick bust of freestyle swimming to get on the wave busted something in my arm. I guess I should slow down now I'm 50
- andy_ppp 4y agoI've actually entered a kind of spooky YouTube tunnel on this! Seems as if there is something to this - my girlfriend has eczema and depression I figure getting something that does this might help. What heater did you use? Here is the medcram video you mentioned about 940nm light and COVID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdiUnmpOgqE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdiUnmpOgqE
- gnicholas 4y agoI don't understand — if this randomized trial shows a benefit, and this video came out over a month ago, why is it not being discussed more, or trumpeted from the rooftops? So much is made of observational studies for other remedies, and this is a prospective randomized study. If this turns out to be an effective treatment, isn't it terrible to not be telling COVID patients to go out and get some sun (which many sick people don't do)? As the doctor mentions, the sun is free, and would likely provide a similar benefit (if not greater).
- alfor 4y agoI tried to spread the word, but people assume that it’s quackery as it sound new age and is not pushed by doctors. Sadly, I think that doctor are mostly trained by pharma, and if there is no money for them then it won’t happen or won’t happen fast. If you look at death per week in northern climate it closely follow the sun exposure. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2020017-eng.htm#archived https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2020017...
- gnicholas 4y agoYeah, I did wonder if it's just lack of a profit motive. I also wondered if scientists would be hesitant to show that "bringing light in through the skin" — which Trump was famously creamed for [1] — might actually work. 1: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/politics/fact-check-coronavirus-briefing-april-23/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/politics/fact-check-coronavir...
- xattt 4y ago> healed my eczema with red light (infrared heater) It turn out that infrared is needed by all our cells to get rid of inflammation. You’re mixing up red and infrared for the sake saying that LED bulbs are the Satan. This can still be corrected by adding red and infrared emitters to LED bulbs.
- marvin 4y agoThey’re expensive though. Looked into this a year ago. Have things changed? My holy grail is a powerful LED light source where you can adjust the spectrumin very granular detail, including at the extremes.
- moffkalast 4y agoI mean can't one buy those IR emitting LEDs for security cameras or TV remotes for cheap? Seems like they'd get the job done but it's hard to say what intensity is required.
- naasking 4y agoThe exact wavelength on the red/IR spectrum matters for how deeply the photons penetrates into cells. IIRC, 600-1100 nm is a sweet spot, so from deep red to IR. But the same wavelengths don't seem to help all cells equally. I think eyesight is improved from 600nm-800nm, but skin and muscle healing with deeper IR wavelengths. Interesting stuff.
- bigfudge 4y agoNote though that near infrared also carries a risk of cataracts. I think they used to call it ‘glass blower’s eye’ because looking at the furnace was a high dose of near IR. Modern IR heaters use much longer wavengths.
- naasking 4y agoGood point. I'm sure it has a lot to do with dosage and intensity. If near IR stimulates more activity in mitochondria (the purported mechanism here), that indicates there are some proteins or other compounds sensitive to that wavelength. It then stands to reason that large dosages at high intensity over prolonged periods can stimulate so much as to cause dysfunction, aka glass glower's cataracts. Looking into the sun isn't healthy for your eyes either, for instance.
- hinkley 4y agoWhat if we had programmable LED bulbs that extended into the infrared, and the amount of infrared was inversely proportional to the weather? In the winter, most electronics in the house are 100% efficient, because they heat the house. The only things better are heat pumps and insulation. One of the advantages of LEDs is not needing to swap them out so often, so while I could swap bulbs in the winter, I really won’t, and neither will most of us.
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- colechristensen 4y agoBright sunlight is 1 kW per square meter. You're going to need a lot of LED light to compare.
- iforgotpassword 4y agoWhich means the IR light from the old bulbs was pretty much neglectable too.
- alfor 4y agoThat is the biggest variable, I don’t know how much power is needed to make a difference. They did experiments with mices but I didn’t do any calculation of the power needed. Best thing to do it to go more outside, but that is not the current trend.
- hinkley 4y agoI'm very confident that we'll find the effect works well without standing out in the noonday sun. Moderately confident that we will discover that certain wavelengths are more important than others. If you find the right emitter, you might be looking at 40W on the winter solstice, and less than half that at the equinox.
- alfor 4y agoMake sense. For therapy they often use infrared LED. I use the heat dish as a quick test that was locally available and to my surprise it worked!
- soperj 4y agoWhy wouldn't you just go outside instead of trying to get it from a lightbulb?
- jlg23 4y agoDepending on where you are and what/when you work you might not be able to "just go outside" at that specific time.
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- zoklet-enjoyer 4y agoIt is currently 11°F with 14mph wind here
- aliqot 4y agoI promise I'm not trying to be that-guy, but cold or not, that sun exposure should still work and cold is good. it's uncomfortable, but it's not inherently 'bad' per se.
- soperj 4y agoHonestly, that sounds like a beautiful winter day. Would be perfect to go skating or cross-country/downhill skiing in. Playing hockey, I doubt I'd even wear a jacket.
- hasbot 4y agoThat puts the wind chill at -5°F. Won't be getting any rays bundled up for that.
- alfor 4y agoCold, dark Canada in the winter :( But you are right, the sun is the best original source.
- dxhdr 4y ago> I healed my eczema with red light (infrared heater) What type of infrared heater did you use?
- alfor 4y agoSimple parabolic heat dish from costco. 1-2 hour/day for a week. Also used hydrating cream to prevent dryness with the heat.
- Sunspark 4y agoI have this dish. It is a hot dish, what temperature setting did you have the dial at and how far away was it that you didn't burn? For those not familiar with what is being discussed here, it's a coiled wire, same principle of operation as a hair dryer or toaster. Electrical current makes the wire heat up. It's wrapped around a cone-shaped central piece, and behind it is a parabolic dish like satellite tv dishes to direct the heat in a beam. It's a fanless space heater.
- alfor 4y agoOn medium at around 3m distance, if I put it lower it make annoying noises from switching on/off. For me it’s mostly on the legs. At some point I get too hot and I stop. It’s also make me relaxed/tired after a while, maybe from the heat or infrared? I would definitely go out in the sun instead, but this help in the darkest part of winter. I hope it help you.
- ezconnect 4y agoI think my eyes aged faster when I switched to LED monitor then to LED lights.
- jjcon 4y ago> I think we will have unintended consequence of everyone switching to led lights: the "wasted" infrared are actually useful for our body. Not a chance - the amount of infrared and near infrared emitted from older style bulbs is a drop in the bucket compared to spending 1 minute outside (we’re talking 1000x more exposure outside).
- portpecos 4y agoWhat about a fireplace? How much infrared does a fire in a fireplace produce? And is that a healthy amount? Over the winter, I’ve been sitting in front of the fireplace a lot doing my work. I use about 3-4 logs an hour.
- gnicholas 4y agoI wondered about this as well. And how do gas fireplaces (with 'logs' that light up red-hot) compare? Does it matter if you're facing it, or facing away?
- alfor 4y agoIf you feel radiated heat and see a bit of red infrared on a wide spectrum. The infrared deeply penetrate the tissues, so it shouldn’t matter much. Trust how you feel too.
- hollerith 4y ago>Does it matter if you're facing it, or facing away? It is best to do both, and your sides too. The infrared does not go all the way through your trunk or legs or head.
- therealdrag0 4y agoI would be amazed if any benefit from infrared outdoes the harm of smoke/air pollution.
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- _yb2s 4y agoI notice huge improvements in my well being and energy levels spending time in the sun without much clothing on, even in the winter when there isn't enough UV for Vitamin D production. I suspect there are many other benefits to sunlight other than vitamin D, and that the modern advice to avoid the sun and supplement D instead has been a huge mistake. In addition to what you mentioned about "mitochondria need infrared," I've also seen at least three additional mechanisms: (1) We need bright sunlight for proper circadian rhythm, e.g. people in darkness experience disregulated sleep and ~26 hour waking periods. (2) Sunlight lowers blood pressure by producing nitric oxide. (3) Sunlight is necessary to regulate the dimensional growth of the eye, to prevent nearsightedness. I suspect there are many more than this also. I doubt that regular incandescent lamps have enough infrared to compete with natural sunlight or satisfy our biological need for infrared. People that do 'red light therapy' often use high wattage heat lamps close to the body without clothing or other barriers.
- novaRom 4y agoIt's not just vitamin D, it's a long chain of different reactions. I prefer to run topless always if temps are comfortably above +5 Celsius. Unfortunately, Europe is probably the darkest place on earth at least in winter months, but this is the place where especially light skinned people evolved. Sun exposure without sunlight is of course not very efficient, but it's worth to use those rare moments when it shines.
- agumonkey 4y agoWhat's the link between IR and mitochondria ? I understand skin tissue (or any exposed tissue) could react to radiations but not cells deeper (unless IR goes through us..).
- alfor 4y agoInfrared or even red light penetrate deeply in our body, 10, 20 cm. The mitochondria make atp from glucose+oxygen but also cause free radicals (think bad combustion) those float around and destroy what they touch. To remove those the mitochondria also make melatonin(powerful antioxidant) that scoop up the free radicals so they can be eliminated but to make melatonin they need infrared radiation, I guess they evolved that way, infrared was available all day when activity was highest. Now our brain make melatonin in the night, this would be the back up plan so that we don’t have to much inflammation at night when our activity level is reduced. If you have an infection your system is working overtime to fight the virus, causing more free radicals/inflammation. It seem a big part of blood clothing in covid is an inflammation overload. Compounding that overweight people are naturally more prone to inflammation. overweight + inside + infection + spike protein = clotting of blood.
- agumonkey 4y agoThanks a lot. I had no clue IR could penetrate that deep. About clotting, do you 'now good books about it ? I'm having troubles with what may be microclotting (stress, grief maybe other factors) and I naturally want to know more.
- alfor 4y agoThe little I know is from medcram (doctor channel on youtube) Search "medcram blood clots" It’s mostly about covid. I heard that fasting might be able to clean similar things, maybe?
- voidee 4y agoWhat kind of infrared heater did you use? Heat bulb, floor heater, other? TIA