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> the market will find a way to deliver it at scale in a cost effective way Who is this market, who is so wise in the ways of science?
by jacobsenscott 4y ago
> the market will find a way to deliver it at scale in a cost effective way
Who is this market, who is so wise in the ways of science?
- pixl97 4y agoSays the person typing the message on a personal supercomputer that has enough battery power to last all day and fit in their pocket at the same time.... (assuming that is, that this message came from a portable device)
- wahnfrieden 4y agoPortable devices haven’t achieved cost effectiveness without dangerous conditions, slavery and child labor on the other end as externalized costs
- pixl97 4y agoAll costs are externalized by the premature heat death of the universe. And I mean really, if this is the bar you want to set then no product is going to meet those goals, so no huge point in pointing out electronics, versus say just about anything you eat on a given day, or the clothes you wear.
- wahnfrieden 4y agouh - no product is going to meet the goals of avoiding slave and child labor and hazardous work conditions? not sure why you're going to bat for that besides to defend that it's hugely profitable. i think many products outside portable devices do meet that goal but it's not in service of market competition and isn't a scalable solution without a bigger systemic change, so i do agree in a sense with saying that at scale no product meets that goal sure.
- falcor84 4y agoHonestly, if the price of a smartphone was even $10,000, I would be happy to pay it. The value I get out of it is incredible. In my case (living in a mid-sized city), if I had to choose between my phone and my car, I'd definitely sell the car first.
- wahnfrieden 4y agowell solutions for these problems are not going to come from consumers independently deciding to pay more to "green wash" their purchases