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The Xbox is not the internet. It is a dedicated internet-powered appliance. And while they may have done a good job there, they have failed in every other inter
by dcurtis 18y ago
The Xbox is not the internet. It is a dedicated internet-powered appliance. And while they may have done a good job there, they have failed in every other internet initiative.
Microsoft does not understand the internet and has never made any notable internet service. Silverlight? Live? MSN? Hotmail? All knockoffs. And they have "failed miserably" every time.
Why would I trust their new internet cloud system when it directly, extricably integrates into all of these other failed initiatives as a feature?
- mattmaroon 18y agoI don't get what you mean. They've failed at search, clearly, but so has everyone but Google. Hotmail is most definitely not a failure, and was a pretty smart acquisition. Silverlight is too new to call a failure, though it's clearly not going to be taking much market share from Flash any time soon. If by MSN you mean their instant messenger, it's the largest by far. Some huge sites (Myspace, MS's stuff, PlentyofFish) run on their servers and programming languages. Their browser still has the majority of the market share (though arguably not for quality reasons.) I don't understand this "they're failing at the internet" sentiment. It seems to just be normal anti-Microsoft stuff. They're failing at search, not the internet as a whole.
- dcurtis 18y agoEverything they do is a knockoff of something else, and it's usually not better (I actually cannot think of a single case where it is better). I am not just randomly anti-Microsoft for religious reasons. They make terrible products that have horrendous user experiences. They do not innovate. In general, I have heard they hire sub-par programmers. All of this is exaggerated in their internet initiatives. Who uses Hotmail anymore? Who used MSN, which they abandoned for Live? Who uses Live? Why would they try to compete against Flash with Silverlight? What gives them the authority or experience to do such a thing? And if you asked me which were the two most horrendous monstrosities of popular websites on the internet, I would say PlentyOfFish and MySpace. They are the two sites which have the least sense of design, ergonomics, usability, and general respect. Why, then, should I trust that they would make good decisions on their backend code and server software?
- mattmaroon 18y agoHotmail is still the 2nd largest email provider, and only barely. Would you consider Gmail a failure? They're a distant third.
- axod 18y agoTry a ms webapp and tell me they're not failing. Load up adcenter and try it out.
- mattmaroon 18y agoI prefer hotmail to Yahoo mail by far. I use gmail only through forwarding or pop.
- axod 18y agoTry outlook web access. Try searching in that. It's a ridiculously horrible experience. Or try adcenter as I said. Watch those billion iframes with their individual spinner loaders going round for 10 minutes while it loads.
- mattmaroon 18y agoWhat is adcenter? Is that their search advertising. No doubt they've failed at search, and all it encompasses. And certainly they've failed at other things that are online. But it's not fair to say they've failed at everything internet related.
- axod 18y agoadcenter is their answer to adwords/yahoo search marketing(overture). I'm still in shock that the xbox doesn't have a browser. That's really scary. Either they are just amazingly arrogant and want everything locked down walled garden, or they are still in denial about the importance of the web, or they just don't get it.
- mattmaroon 18y agoIdk. Wii has a web browser and it sucks and nobody uses it. I purchased it out of curiosity, and what a waste. Without a reasonable keyboard, there's not point. And reading the internet off the TV sucks. I'd rather surf on my Moto Q, and that's saying a lot because surfing on that tiny thing sucks ass.