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I do have to admit there are effectively no "dark corners" anymore. The percentage of the population that can be involved in a new cultural movement without its

I do have to admit there are effectively no "dark corners" anymore. The percentage of the population that can be involved in a new cultural movement without its details becoming common knowledge is getting smaller and smaller.

badcppdev 4y ago
I'm going to query the phrase "common knowledge". To mutilate Gibson I think that common knowledge is not evenly distributed.
Zetobal 4y ago
There are more dark corners than ever... and they are as dark as it gets. You just don't want/know how to look for them and they are also as private as it gets.
- tapland 4y ago
  There's a lot more fragmentation. The few common grounds, the most popular music, 'content creators', ideas and current events get amplified by news sites relying on ads, algorithms seeking maximum engagement. It's hard to promote a fringe issue in a wide content channel and there's a lack of everything in between fringe and mainstream.
  - Zetobal 4y ago
    Yeah sure, but saying that there are no "dark corners" is just naive. Counterculture in the 70s or 90s weren't massive movements at all. I don't see how it has changed looking at teens at the school of my children. It's mostly the problem of getting older can centering more with the mainstream yourself.
AstixAndBelix 4y ago
A corner is still a corner. The vast majority of people don't care about corners, whether they are illuminated or not.
autoexec 4y ago
> I do have to admit there are effectively no "dark corners" anymore. This is the problem. As soon as a counter-culture gets any amount of steam going a million marketers swoop in to sell it as an identity to anyone with a credit card. Marketers are constantly searching for the undiscovered cool or subversive thing. They have undercover agents infiltrate hobbies, movements, and cliques. They collect endless amounts of data so that they can fine tune their pitch to every individual person's most obscure interests. Whatever you identify as or stand for, there's a marketer willing to sell you something so that you can signal who you are to those around you. Marketers then slowly start to manipulate and change the counter-culture so that it sells better too. There is no counter-culture because everyone is busy being a part of their preferred culture-bubbles only all of it is mainstream now. It's all so easily accessible that everything esoteric has become exoteric. No matter what it is, you can buy your starter pack right off the rack. Eventually it all gets watered down to capture as many dollars as possible and we're left with all these options, but still wondering where the counter-culture went.
stefantalpalaru 4y ago
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badcppdev 4y ago

I'm going to query the phrase "common knowledge". To mutilate Gibson I think that common knowledge is not evenly distributed.

Zetobal 4y ago

There are more dark corners than ever... and they are as dark as it gets. You just don't want/know how to look for them and they are also as private as it gets.

tapland 4y ago
There's a lot more fragmentation. The few common grounds, the most popular music, 'content creators', ideas and current events get amplified by news sites relying on ads, algorithms seeking maximum engagement. It's hard to promote a fringe issue in a wide content channel and there's a lack of everything in between fringe and mainstream.
- Zetobal 4y ago
  Yeah sure, but saying that there are no "dark corners" is just naive. Counterculture in the 70s or 90s weren't massive movements at all. I don't see how it has changed looking at teens at the school of my children. It's mostly the problem of getting older can centering more with the mainstream yourself.

AstixAndBelix 4y ago

A corner is still a corner. The vast majority of people don't care about corners, whether they are illuminated or not.

autoexec 4y ago

> I do have to admit there are effectively no "dark corners" anymore. This is the problem. As soon as a counter-culture gets any amount of steam going a million marketers swoop in to sell it as an identity to anyone with a credit card. Marketers are constantly searching for the undiscovered cool or subversive thing. They have undercover agents infiltrate hobbies, movements, and cliques. They collect endless amounts of data so that they can fine tune their pitch to every individual person's most obscure interests. Whatever you identify as or stand for, there's a marketer willing to sell you something so that you can signal who you are to those around you. Marketers then slowly start to manipulate and change the counter-culture so that it sells better too. There is no counter-culture because everyone is busy being a part of their preferred culture-bubbles only all of it is mainstream now. It's all so easily accessible that everything esoteric has become exoteric. No matter what it is, you can buy your starter pack right off the rack. Eventually it all gets watered down to capture as many dollars as possible and we're left with all these options, but still wondering where the counter-culture went.

stefantalpalaru 4y ago

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