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And ... it is gone from the front page. HN is explicitely not the place for political activism of any kind, however justified the cause, just remember that, th

And ... it is gone from the front page. HN is explicitely not the place for political activism of any kind, however justified the cause, just remember that, than you are not enraged by it. And my general point on this is: I'd like to see them try. It likely will get softened up quite a lot, but if they really go through with it, they will turn lots of technical (or just privacy concerned) people into criminals over night. Good luck with that. I live in the EU, but I certainly would not comply to any of this. And if Signal will automatically upload images from me, than I will use 100% open source and decentral solutions like Matrix based ones. Might turn out good for that.

kreetx 4y ago
Have recently found this to view HN: https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/, a "chronologic list of items that have made it onto the Hacker News homepage", by homepage I presume the first page.
dang 4y ago
We downweighted it because this topic has had lots of discussion [1] and the current article didn't seem to contain significant new information [2, 3]. It's possible that was a wrong call; I didn't look closely at the article. If you or anyone feel strongly about a case like this you should email us at hn@ycombinator.com and make an argument for why the article and thread are worth re-ranking. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34608595 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34608595 [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22significant%20new%20information%22%20by%3Adang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... [3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=follow-up%20downweight&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- hutzlibu 4y ago
  "If you or anyone feel strongly about a case like this" Well, I do feel strongly about this case, but I know and respect, that your main motivation here, is providing a place for interesting debates and political activism often just leads to lots of rants and blowing of steam. So I would appreciate it, if topics like these sometimes are visible, so more people are aware of the topic, but I can live with the downranking of this specific article (especially since it was a bit hyperbole).
  - dang 4y ago
    Thanks for the unusually nuanced reply :) This is on the front page today - on the same topic and from the same source: Stop the proposal on mass surveillance of the EU - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34626395 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34626395 I don't know whether that article or this one would have been a better fit for HN but it's clear that there's community appetite to discuss this.

kreetx 4y ago

Have recently found this to view HN: https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/, a "chronologic list of items that have made it onto the Hacker News homepage", by homepage I presume the first page.

dang 4y ago

We downweighted it because this topic has had lots of discussion [1] and the current article didn't seem to contain significant new information [2, 3]. It's possible that was a wrong call; I didn't look closely at the article. If you or anyone feel strongly about a case like this you should email us at hn@ycombinator.com and make an argument for why the article and thread are worth re-ranking. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34608595 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34608595 [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22significant%20new%20information%22%20by%3Adang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... [3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=follow-up%20downweight&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

hutzlibu 4y ago
"If you or anyone feel strongly about a case like this" Well, I do feel strongly about this case, but I know and respect, that your main motivation here, is providing a place for interesting debates and political activism often just leads to lots of rants and blowing of steam. So I would appreciate it, if topics like these sometimes are visible, so more people are aware of the topic, but I can live with the downranking of this specific article (especially since it was a bit hyperbole).
- dang 4y ago
  Thanks for the unusually nuanced reply :) This is on the front page today - on the same topic and from the same source: Stop the proposal on mass surveillance of the EU - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34626395 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34626395 I don't know whether that article or this one would have been a better fit for HN but it's clear that there's community appetite to discuss this.