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It seems that application stores would only be a tiny fragment of what would be affected by the law. Basically everything involving facilitating communications

It seems that application stores would only be a tiny fragment of what would be affected by the law. Basically everything involving facilitating communications between users would be subject to draconian surveillance and reporting requirements. This is not the way a free or open society progresses.

mantas 4y ago
EU is neither free nor open. I'm saying this as a citizen of EU member. It's getting more and more pro-big-business and pro-big-government day by day. While citizen self-governance is crushed over and over. Good example is Poland vs EU conflict for political control of judges. Meanwhile nobody bats an eye for existing political control of judges in my country. Here higher level judges have to be approved by parliament. Currently parliament speaker is a leader of a party that is trialed for corruption. This party is in ruling coalition as well. So the party that is in trial also makes a call who can work as a judge. Yet there's zero complains about that :)
- jeoqn 4y ago
  It’s only bad if the judges are conservative ;-)
- mbork_pl 4y ago
  Where are you from, if I may ask?
  - mantas 4y ago
    Hello from your northern neighbour, Lithuania.
- mariusor 4y ago
  Personally I don't see how your example shows EU crushing "citizen self-governance" which sounds like a liberarian charged expression for "democracy". Could you elaborate please?
  - mantas 4y ago
    My example was more about EU bureaucrats looking for something else than rule-of-law and democracy and whatnot :) As for exactly self-governance, IMO earmarked funding is the worst example. There're lots and lots of dumb investments that were made only to take „EU money“ (because somehow it's too hard for people to contact that it's our taxes). And other areas were neglected because there was no „EU money“ to take. Watchtowers may be one of most in-your-face examples :)

mantas 4y ago

EU is neither free nor open. I'm saying this as a citizen of EU member. It's getting more and more pro-big-business and pro-big-government day by day. While citizen self-governance is crushed over and over. Good example is Poland vs EU conflict for political control of judges. Meanwhile nobody bats an eye for existing political control of judges in my country. Here higher level judges have to be approved by parliament. Currently parliament speaker is a leader of a party that is trialed for corruption. This party is in ruling coalition as well. So the party that is in trial also makes a call who can work as a judge. Yet there's zero complains about that :)

jeoqn 4y ago
It’s only bad if the judges are conservative ;-)
mbork_pl 4y ago
Where are you from, if I may ask?
- mantas 4y ago
  Hello from your northern neighbour, Lithuania.
mariusor 4y ago
Personally I don't see how your example shows EU crushing "citizen self-governance" which sounds like a liberarian charged expression for "democracy". Could you elaborate please?
- mantas 4y ago
  My example was more about EU bureaucrats looking for something else than rule-of-law and democracy and whatnot :) As for exactly self-governance, IMO earmarked funding is the worst example. There're lots and lots of dumb investments that were made only to take „EU money“ (because somehow it's too hard for people to contact that it's our taxes). And other areas were neglected because there was no „EU money“ to take. Watchtowers may be one of most in-your-face examples :)