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What is Ubuntu Pro and how will this affect me as a regular Ubuntu user? Linked post has no context

josephcsible 4y ago
Ubuntu Pro is a paid* subscription that Canonical offers. It affects you if you've installed any packages in universe, e.g., ImageMagick, in that you'll be running known-vulnerable versions of them unless you sign up for Pro. * Individual users can use it for free on up to 5 machines.
- chrsig 4y ago
  if it's gpl software, can they actually enforce that? if they're distributing under gpl, that means they 1) have to make the source available, 2) the user maintains the ability to redistribute. So provided that the user makes their own apt repo, they should be able to distribute it to as many machines as they see fit. That's essentially how centos operated. I'm sure there's some exceptions, around assets that ubuntu may own or any trademarks. But I shouldn't be learning this from an HN link to a twitter post of a screenshot that references ubuntu.com/pro. So I have the sense they haven't done much if any advertising for it? Maybe I've just been oblivious? It is somewhat concerning that they're kinda holding security packages hostage...but I don't think it's unreasonable for ubuntu to want corporations to chip in. Gotta keep the operation running somehow, and bills don't just pay themselves. I don't know what else they can offer to make anyone actually shell out some cash.
  - josephcsible 4y ago
    > if it's gpl software, can they actually enforce that? In practice, I think they probably will be able to, since grsecurity can for their patches (at least they've been able to so far) even though the Linux kernel is GPL. I agree that they shouldn't be able to.
captn3m0 4y ago
I've filed a PR[0] for endoflife.date/ubuntu, (Preview[1]). Would appreciate feedback if this helps understand the mess. [0]: https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/pull/2424 https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/pull/2424 [1]: https://deploy-preview-2424--endoflife-date.netlify.app/ubuntu https://deploy-preview-2424--endoflife-date.netlify.app/ubun...

Ubuntu Pro is a paid* subscription that Canonical offers. It affects you if you've installed any packages in universe, e.g., ImageMagick, in that you'll be running known-vulnerable versions of them unless you sign up for Pro. * Individual users can use it for free on up to 5 machines.

chrsig 4y ago
if it's gpl software, can they actually enforce that? if they're distributing under gpl, that means they 1) have to make the source available, 2) the user maintains the ability to redistribute. So provided that the user makes their own apt repo, they should be able to distribute it to as many machines as they see fit. That's essentially how centos operated. I'm sure there's some exceptions, around assets that ubuntu may own or any trademarks. But I shouldn't be learning this from an HN link to a twitter post of a screenshot that references ubuntu.com/pro. So I have the sense they haven't done much if any advertising for it? Maybe I've just been oblivious? It is somewhat concerning that they're kinda holding security packages hostage...but I don't think it's unreasonable for ubuntu to want corporations to chip in. Gotta keep the operation running somehow, and bills don't just pay themselves. I don't know what else they can offer to make anyone actually shell out some cash.
- josephcsible 4y ago
  > if it's gpl software, can they actually enforce that? In practice, I think they probably will be able to, since grsecurity can for their patches (at least they've been able to so far) even though the Linux kernel is GPL. I agree that they shouldn't be able to.

captn3m0 4y ago

I've filed a PR[0] for endoflife.date/ubuntu, (Preview[1]). Would appreciate feedback if this helps understand the mess. [0]: https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/pull/2424 https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/pull/2424 [1]: https://deploy-preview-2424--endoflife-date.netlify.app/ubuntu https://deploy-preview-2424--endoflife-date.netlify.app/ubun...