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There are so many choices if you're a top talent in silicon. Apple, Amazon, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Broadcom, one of many AI accelerator startups, Tencent, Aliba

There are so many choices if you're a top talent in silicon. Apple, Amazon, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Broadcom, one of many AI accelerator startups, Tencent, Alibaba, Baidu, Microsoft, Meta, Google, ARM, TSMC, Micron, Samsung. Just off the top of my head. Everyone is making custom CPUs or accelerators, or both nowadays. This isn't 2005.

inetknght 4y ago
How many of those companies fall under nebulous non-compete clauses? How many of the companies have anti-poaching agreements under the table?
- mcast 4y ago
  Sure, just move to California where non-compete agreements aren't enforced
  - tanelpoder 4y ago
    Wouldn't the previous employer in the previous state still be able to sue you in their state (as your old employment contract specifies that any disputes will be resolved in the courts of that previous state)?
    - kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
      Don't let previous employer know where you're working.
      - vkou 4y ago
        Your new employer will call your current employer when they do background checks, and will receive a legal threat about poaching in response. Your new employer will also ask whether you currently have active non-competes against you, and may think twice before extending you an offer.
- senttoschool 4y ago
  Probably none. It's illegal in the US and after what happened between Apple and Google's anti-poaching agreement, I think Silicon Valley has stopped. I haven't heard about any in a long time.
dilyevsky 4y ago
> Tencent, Alibaba, Baidu No longer an option if you’re american
- senttoschool 4y ago
  I think they still have offices here in the US and employ Americans. Alibaba has been scaling back though. Lastly, I don't think there's any law that prevents an American from moving to China to work. https://careers.tencent.com/en-us/cityinfo.html?city=401 https://careers.tencent.com/en-us/cityinfo.html?city=401 http://research.baidu.com/ http://research.baidu.com/
  - thaeli 4y ago
    Yes, but they are now forced to give up their American citizenship to do so. That's a very steep cost.
  - dilyevsky 4y ago
    > Lastly, I don't think there's any law that prevents an American from moving to China to work. IANAL but yes there are now > Restricts the ability of U.S. persons to support the development, or production, of ICs at certain PRC-located semiconductor fabrication “facilities” without a license; See: https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/documents/about-bis/newsroom/press-releases/3158-2022-10-07-bis-press-release-advanced-computing-and-semiconductor-manufacturing-controls-final/file https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/documents/about-bis/newsro...
    - senttoschool 4y ago
      I guess it won't stop Chinese citizens working at Intel to return home though.
      - dilyevsky 4y ago
        Only if they don’t want to keep their visas/green cards. “us persons” can have different meaning but I’m pretty sure in this case it applies at least to gc
anshumankmr 4y ago
Many new companies are also trying to jump into this space. https://www.ndtv.com/business/tata-groups-big-leap-in-the-semiconductor-industry-3605086#:~:text=In%20July%202022%2C%20the%20group,manufacturing%2C%20assembly%2C%20and%20testing https://www.ndtv.com/business/tata-groups-big-leap-in-the-se....

inetknght 4y ago

How many of those companies fall under nebulous non-compete clauses? How many of the companies have anti-poaching agreements under the table?

mcast 4y ago
Sure, just move to California where non-compete agreements aren't enforced
- tanelpoder 4y ago
  Wouldn't the previous employer in the previous state still be able to sue you in their state (as your old employment contract specifies that any disputes will be resolved in the courts of that previous state)?
  - kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
    Don't let previous employer know where you're working.
    - vkou 4y ago
      Your new employer will call your current employer when they do background checks, and will receive a legal threat about poaching in response. Your new employer will also ask whether you currently have active non-competes against you, and may think twice before extending you an offer.
senttoschool 4y ago
Probably none. It's illegal in the US and after what happened between Apple and Google's anti-poaching agreement, I think Silicon Valley has stopped. I haven't heard about any in a long time.

dilyevsky 4y ago

> Tencent, Alibaba, Baidu No longer an option if you’re american

senttoschool 4y ago
I think they still have offices here in the US and employ Americans. Alibaba has been scaling back though. Lastly, I don't think there's any law that prevents an American from moving to China to work. https://careers.tencent.com/en-us/cityinfo.html?city=401 https://careers.tencent.com/en-us/cityinfo.html?city=401 http://research.baidu.com/ http://research.baidu.com/
- thaeli 4y ago
  Yes, but they are now forced to give up their American citizenship to do so. That's a very steep cost.
- dilyevsky 4y ago
  > Lastly, I don't think there's any law that prevents an American from moving to China to work. IANAL but yes there are now > Restricts the ability of U.S. persons to support the development, or production, of ICs at certain PRC-located semiconductor fabrication “facilities” without a license; See: https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/documents/about-bis/newsroom/press-releases/3158-2022-10-07-bis-press-release-advanced-computing-and-semiconductor-manufacturing-controls-final/file https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/documents/about-bis/newsro...
  - senttoschool 4y ago
    I guess it won't stop Chinese citizens working at Intel to return home though.
    - dilyevsky 4y ago
      Only if they don’t want to keep their visas/green cards. “us persons” can have different meaning but I’m pretty sure in this case it applies at least to gc

anshumankmr 4y ago

Many new companies are also trying to jump into this space. https://www.ndtv.com/business/tata-groups-big-leap-in-the-semiconductor-industry-3605086#:~:text=In%20July%202022%2C%20the%20group,manufacturing%2C%20assembly%2C%20and%20testing https://www.ndtv.com/business/tata-groups-big-leap-in-the-se....