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I find Mac’s desktop experience to be really limited. I was shipped one from work and it didn’t grow on me at all. Fancy Zones is fantastic on Windows, corner

I find Mac’s desktop experience to be really limited. I was shipped one from work and it didn’t grow on me at all. Fancy Zones is fantastic on Windows, corner tiling is at least a thing in most Linux DEs, and then there’s Mac. Same way window management worked in System 7. Maybe worse because there was at least a visible grab corner back then. I’m not sure how people use their touchpads without middle click emulation either.

bayindirh 4y ago
You can install Magnet on macOS to get this corner snapping/tiling functionality, it's nice. > I’m not sure how people use their touchpads without middle click emulation either. Because macOS application doesn't need and not designed for it.
- gigatexal 4y ago
  Why use a bandaid when you can get proper tiling in a bespoke window manager on Linux/BSD.
  - bayindirh 4y ago
    Not everyone uses or wants to use Linux. Or they prefer to keep a macOS system alongside their Linux system(s). I don't see value in showing the other side of the fence when someone doesn't interested on the other side.
    - gigatexal 4y ago
      Unless you're living in XCode all day long or beholden to Final Cut then what does MacOS give you that you can't find on a truly open OS? Of course I am not forcing or coercing anyone to move to an OS they're not productive in. I am just saying keep an open mind to Linux. I tried the Magnet approach when I was a die-hard MacOS fan and apologist and it just didn't work as well as i3 does. I literally went to Linux because of i3 and stayed because everything "just works" like it used to on teh Mac.
      - bayindirh 4y ago
        Well, I'm using Linux for 20 years and macOS for 16 years at this point. I prefer Linux desktops and Mac Notebooks, due to hardware quality, and having an alternative OS in my life, so I can port features between them while developing something (i.e. The code I develop contains best features of both OSes where appropriate). I'm also using KDE close to 15 years at this point, since 3.5.x and I'd prefer it over anything tiling or floating because of the feature set and power it brings. So, why someone would want to use macOS? It's not only XCode and Final Cut (I prefer Eclipse on all platforms). Omnigraffle for example. A tool which can draw diagrams and technical diagrams, Dia can't come close, or any other alternative I tried. Same for MindNode. More powerful mind mapping solutions exist on Linux, but MindNode works like an extension of your brain. I can create gigantic maps in minutes, limited by my typing speed. Another example is Scan Thing. It's mostly an implementation thing, but that thing works so well for extracting text and images. Well, while we're talking about text, we can talk about Prizmo, which can correct the curves of camera scanned images and then OCR them, so PDF Pen Pro, which is a power tool for editing PDFs. There also fun novelty tools like Monodraw which I use to draw ASCII diagrams for my code, and leave it as a comment inside my codebases. Is Linux side gloom, then? Of course not. Kid3 is irreplaceable, so Gwenview, and macOS has no equivalent of it. Many of the other tools I use on macOS are built-ins for Linux systems and work much better than their macOS counterparts by leaps and bounds. Darktable is a powerhouse for photo post-processing, and while macOS alternatives exist, they're not as good as Darktable for my use cases. So both sides have very good applications, macOS has hardware advantage on mobile side. The main reason I keep macOS on the mobile side because it's a POSIX compliant UNIX at the core, so it can work with Linux systems reasonably well, and yes I like the hardware and having another reference point to see where the world is headed. Living in echo chambers is not good, IMHO.
        gigatexal 4y ago
        See I hear this and think: "KDE!?! That bloat?! There's no way I'd choose that over the simplicity of i3/sway!" And yet, that's the beauty of it all: On Linux/BSD you can choose your environment and customize it till your heart is content. The OS then becomes a tool shaped to your needs vs the other way around. Bayindirh you seem to take a more practical approach to things than I do and that's dope. Re your point about Apple laptops and *Nix Oses I 100% agree which is why I am a supporter of the Asahi Linux project. I would love to see everything-working-out-of-the-box support for my favorite distro on M1/M2 hardware so I can get a nice M1 or M2 laptop but run my favorite OS on it instead of MacOS.
dsego 4y ago
Rectangle brings that and works seamlessly https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/ > I’m not sure how people use their touchpads without middle click emulation either. Because there is no need for middle click on mac? Not sure when you would use it, but there is probably a different combo (maybe even superior?) for whatever action that's mapped to a middle click. There is no emulation of a scroll wheel either.
- ac29 4y ago
  > Because there is no need for middle click on mac? Not sure when you would use it, but there is probably a different combo (maybe even superior?) for whatever action that's mapped to a middle click. Middle click opens a link in a new tab. A quick search suggests this isnt possible on Mac OS using the touchpad, which would personally drive me crazy.
  - dacohenii 4y ago
    BetterTouchTool can do this! I too would go crazy without it.
  - dsego 4y ago
    cmd + left click
  - dsego 4y ago
    On the opposite side, force clicking on a word in MacOS opens a dictionary popup with the definition, I couldn't live without it.

bayindirh 4y ago

You can install Magnet on macOS to get this corner snapping/tiling functionality, it's nice. > I’m not sure how people use their touchpads without middle click emulation either. Because macOS application doesn't need and not designed for it.

gigatexal 4y ago
Why use a bandaid when you can get proper tiling in a bespoke window manager on Linux/BSD.
- bayindirh 4y ago
  Not everyone uses or wants to use Linux. Or they prefer to keep a macOS system alongside their Linux system(s). I don't see value in showing the other side of the fence when someone doesn't interested on the other side.
  - gigatexal 4y ago
    Unless you're living in XCode all day long or beholden to Final Cut then what does MacOS give you that you can't find on a truly open OS? Of course I am not forcing or coercing anyone to move to an OS they're not productive in. I am just saying keep an open mind to Linux. I tried the Magnet approach when I was a die-hard MacOS fan and apologist and it just didn't work as well as i3 does. I literally went to Linux because of i3 and stayed because everything "just works" like it used to on teh Mac.
    - bayindirh 4y ago
      Well, I'm using Linux for 20 years and macOS for 16 years at this point. I prefer Linux desktops and Mac Notebooks, due to hardware quality, and having an alternative OS in my life, so I can port features between them while developing something (i.e. The code I develop contains best features of both OSes where appropriate). I'm also using KDE close to 15 years at this point, since 3.5.x and I'd prefer it over anything tiling or floating because of the feature set and power it brings. So, why someone would want to use macOS? It's not only XCode and Final Cut (I prefer Eclipse on all platforms). Omnigraffle for example. A tool which can draw diagrams and technical diagrams, Dia can't come close, or any other alternative I tried. Same for MindNode. More powerful mind mapping solutions exist on Linux, but MindNode works like an extension of your brain. I can create gigantic maps in minutes, limited by my typing speed. Another example is Scan Thing. It's mostly an implementation thing, but that thing works so well for extracting text and images. Well, while we're talking about text, we can talk about Prizmo, which can correct the curves of camera scanned images and then OCR them, so PDF Pen Pro, which is a power tool for editing PDFs. There also fun novelty tools like Monodraw which I use to draw ASCII diagrams for my code, and leave it as a comment inside my codebases. Is Linux side gloom, then? Of course not. Kid3 is irreplaceable, so Gwenview, and macOS has no equivalent of it. Many of the other tools I use on macOS are built-ins for Linux systems and work much better than their macOS counterparts by leaps and bounds. Darktable is a powerhouse for photo post-processing, and while macOS alternatives exist, they're not as good as Darktable for my use cases. So both sides have very good applications, macOS has hardware advantage on mobile side. The main reason I keep macOS on the mobile side because it's a POSIX compliant UNIX at the core, so it can work with Linux systems reasonably well, and yes I like the hardware and having another reference point to see where the world is headed. Living in echo chambers is not good, IMHO.
      - gigatexal 4y ago
        See I hear this and think: "KDE!?! That bloat?! There's no way I'd choose that over the simplicity of i3/sway!" And yet, that's the beauty of it all: On Linux/BSD you can choose your environment and customize it till your heart is content. The OS then becomes a tool shaped to your needs vs the other way around. Bayindirh you seem to take a more practical approach to things than I do and that's dope. Re your point about Apple laptops and *Nix Oses I 100% agree which is why I am a supporter of the Asahi Linux project. I would love to see everything-working-out-of-the-box support for my favorite distro on M1/M2 hardware so I can get a nice M1 or M2 laptop but run my favorite OS on it instead of MacOS.

dsego 4y ago

Rectangle brings that and works seamlessly https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/ > I’m not sure how people use their touchpads without middle click emulation either. Because there is no need for middle click on mac? Not sure when you would use it, but there is probably a different combo (maybe even superior?) for whatever action that's mapped to a middle click. There is no emulation of a scroll wheel either.

ac29 4y ago
> Because there is no need for middle click on mac? Not sure when you would use it, but there is probably a different combo (maybe even superior?) for whatever action that's mapped to a middle click. Middle click opens a link in a new tab. A quick search suggests this isnt possible on Mac OS using the touchpad, which would personally drive me crazy.
- dacohenii 4y ago
  BetterTouchTool can do this! I too would go crazy without it.
- dsego 4y ago
  cmd + left click
- dsego 4y ago
  On the opposite side, force clicking on a word in MacOS opens a dictionary popup with the definition, I couldn't live without it.