> The pro-density crowd cannot comprehend wanting to live in a quiet, safe, uncrowded town. No, we just can't comprehend why you would expect the big city to b

> The pro-density crowd cannot comprehend wanting to live in a quiet, safe, uncrowded town. No, we just can't comprehend why you would expect the big city to be quiet and uncrowded. It's like moving to the tropics, and complaining that it rains too much, and that the skiing sucks. If you want quiet and uncrowded, there's the 99.9% of the country's land area that isn't taken up by coastal metros in the middle of a crippling housing crisis.