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Article cites https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm as evidence of scientists being wrong abou

Article cites https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm as evidence of scientists being wrong about natural-vs-"artificial" immunity but it shows that vaccination prevented infection better than natural immunity. The actual virus has genes in it which specifically try to depress the expression of MHC and evade the human immune system (because the actual virus really doesn't want the human immune system to stop it). The vaccine naturally doesn't include any such countermeasures. Plenty of studies show failure to form humoral responses to natural infection, particularly with mild infection.

autoexec 4y ago
It wouldn't matter if "natural infection" did give you better protection against reinfection anyway because the vaccine provides protection against death and severe illness while getting infected without being vaccinated greatly increases those same risks. You'd have to be a fool to risk death, serious illness, and long term (if not lifelong) consciousness over the risk of having a sore arm for a day just to get a bump in protection against a possible reinfection in the future, especially when spreading the virus is what leads to variants which can evolve to evade those same defenses. The science and the math on this haven't changed at all, but that didn't stop antivaxxers from grasping at anything they could find to push people into getting themselves and their children infected as quickly as possible for that sweet "natural protection". If people want to say that science became a "team sport" lets not forget that the team they were playing against was "team virus" and there were a shocking amount of hardcore virus fans pushing for policies and practices that would clearly result in more people getting infected.

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Article cites https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm as evidence of scientists being wrong abou

by lamontcg 4y ago

autoexec 4y ago
It wouldn't matter if "natural infection" did give you better protection against reinfection anyway because the vaccine provides protection against death and severe illness while getting infected without being vaccinated greatly increases those same risks. You'd have to be a fool to risk death, serious illness, and long term (if not lifelong) consciousness over the risk of having a sore arm for a day just to get a bump in protection against a possible reinfection in the future, especially when spreading the virus is what leads to variants which can evolve to evade those same defenses. The science and the math on this haven't changed at all, but that didn't stop antivaxxers from grasping at anything they could find to push people into getting themselves and their children infected as quickly as possible for that sweet "natural protection". If people want to say that science became a "team sport" lets not forget that the team they were playing against was "team virus" and there were a shocking amount of hardcore virus fans pushing for policies and practices that would clearly result in more people getting infected.