> No, no religion on my end. I am definitely not surprised. Atheists seem to be the loudest about proclaiming positive rights. And, yet, it is within atheist g

> No, no religion on my end. I am definitely not surprised. Atheists seem to be the loudest about proclaiming positive rights. And, yet, it is within atheist governments where people are least likely to experience these "rights", or even the right to life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism That is no accident. > I just think it's obvious people have a right to food, like they have a right to clean air, water and shelter. That's neat. I can't help but notice you declined to justify this belief. And that's part of the problem. Secular humanism has no foundation. Instead, it relies on the foundations Christianity built. As that erodes, so too will human flourishing in general!