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I have one of their cheapest compact models, the Lemur, and I love it. I don't use it much lately, but everything "just works" for the basic cases, and I only h
by ok_dad 4y ago
I have one of their cheapest compact models, the Lemur, and I love it. I don't use it much lately, but everything "just works" for the basic cases, and I only have to sometimes deal with poor Linux support for non-System76 peripherals which would be an issue on any Linux notebook.
I plan to buy a desktop from them soon because I'm not into having a laptop now that I work from home permanently and I also want to run some games on it that you absolutely cannot run without a graphics card.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 4y agoAt this point, my white whale for a Linux laptop is functioning sleep. Any problems/higher than expected power consumption?
- gkbrk 4y agoIs it? My ThinkPad running Linux goes to sleep and wakes up just fine.
- nerdponx 4y agoMine does too, but the battery still dies after a while, unlike my MacBook which seems to have nearly unlimited sleep capability.
- pmontra 4y agoThere are a number of factors. In my case it's the driver of the graphic card. I never had problems with sleep on any of my Linux laptops. The problem is with shutdown. Shutdown is shutdown when I'm using the Noveau driver for my NVidia card but it's reboot when I'm using the NVidia driver. Unfortunately Noveau doesn't get sync right for my card with both Wayland and X11 so I have to use NVidia with X11. The few times per year that I have to poweroff I press the power button right before the BIOS screen appears. At least version 470 of the driver fixed the brightness control keys. The didn't work for years and I remapped them as hotkeys to run xbacklight.
- ok_dad 4y agoThe power usage isn't great, but it's as good as any non-Apple compact laptop I've ever owned. It sleeps fine, but not in the "hibernate" type of sleep.
- yamtaddle 4y agoNFTs exist, but fully, and more-or-less reliably, functioning sleep states are still something Apple can use as a differentiator in 2023. Markets are weird.
- phowat 4y agoIn all fairness, windows laptops don’t have functioning sleep either. Only apple nailed it. Edit: This is what I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHKKcd3sx2c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHKKcd3sx2c
- bernawil 4y ago> Only apple nailed it. it used to be true, but sleep sucks now in the M1 line. When I leave my 14 inch mbp on sleep with 20% battery before bed I wake up to a dead battery.
- ikurei 4y agoMay be some app you use is preventing sleep from functioning correctly? Is this something that happens to many users? I have two M1 macbooks, one that I use almost daily and another that I only use a couple times a week. None of them have had any problem with sleep or battery life, I'm actually extremely happy with them in this regard.
- elteto 4y agoSleep on the M1’s is as good, if not better, as it ever was. You might have a power hungry application throwing things off.
- Klonoar 4y agoM1 user here who's never experienced what you're saying. Sounds like a configuration issue.
- vladvasiliu 4y agoYeah, the classic let's copy Apple (power nap), but only half-ass it. Bonus points for completely throwing out S3 sleep (though I hear some laptops still support that). Speaking of Linux, on my particular HP laptops (Elitebook 840 (intel 11th gen) and 845 (zen 3)) it wipes the floor with Windows. Even though "HP Recommends Windows 11". Main reason being that it actually stays asleep. Windows, half the time, will wake back up moments in. When it stays asleep, there's a high probability that it will somehow crash and reboot [0] or just randomly wake up while being closed in a bag. There's no power management while the actual OS hasn't started booting [1], so you get the screen going at full blast, etc. Good times, especially in a bag or at night [2]. It also sometimes starts spinning the fan while pretending to sleep. It does indeed get rather warm, so I'm not really sure what it does. What Windows sometimes does and Linux never does: wake from sleep to a black screen, wake from sleep to a garbled screen, sometimes with the fan blowing like a jet engine. --- [0] No, it doesn't reboot for updates. The event log talks about unexpected shutdown. It also doesn't run out of battery, since it also happens while being plugged in. [1] I use bitlocker with TPM + PIN, so it doesn't boot on its own [2] I don't usually close it because the screen touches the keyboard, so it gets dirty.
- schaefer 4y agoI was in the same boat, but in my case I finally figured out that it wasn't that the hardware that couldn't do it, I realized the configuration wasn't optimized. So I'll share my number one optimization trick. Install powertop and get familiar with all the tabs it provides. Use: sudo powertop --auto-tune it can make a HUGE difference. After a while all the tricks started to snowball and I was able to set up my laptop so I could swap between nvidia discrete graphics (2-3 hours off a full battery) and the integrated Intel Xe graphics (13.5 hours off a full battery). Power consumption on suspend under intel graphics is negligible. Wake is flawless. Now I find myself wishing I knew windows better so I could get the same graphics-swap-trick working under windows too (dual booted system).