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Does anyone actually even believe that this A.I generated writing is any good? The standards seem extremely low. Can it beat Tolkien or Asimov? No. Then what i

Does anyone actually even believe that this A.I generated writing is any good? The standards seem extremely low. Can it beat Tolkien or Asimov? No. Then what is even the point of all this propaganda?

dqpb 4y ago
This is such a comical point of view I can't tell if it's sarcasm or a genuine question. Yes, I would wager that ChatGPT can write better than at least 90% of living human beings.
- jfk13 4y ago
  And yet I'd rather hear what the living human beings have to say. They may write poorly, but at least they have actual thoughts and ideas -- no matter how misguided or bizarre -- that they're trying to communicate.
- ulizzle 4y ago
  It's incapable of original thought, so absolutely not. Proof: can ChatGTP trigger y'all like I did?
- ulizzle 4y ago
  Can’t edit anymore, but notice how I’m accused of being ridiculous yet the numbers being thrown here are all absurd percentages like, 90%, 99%, and so on
swatcoder 4y ago
It's not good by any means, but neither is most assigned, casual, or rote writing. 10,000 students are writing some crappy essay on the Great Depression every day, and ChatGPT has probably trained on a zillion of these. It's optimized to produce those mediocre essays really efficiently, and that's very disruptive to how teachers have been working with students for the last century or so. The internet (and fraternity filing cabinets) were already straining this kind of pedagogy, but ChatGPT breaks it wholesale.
- gunshai 4y ago
  What I find interesting about your comment, is that while it can produce that mediocre essay. It can also produce a much better one. How? Well it's all about how you interact with it. But the majority of use as you said will be taking the first output given the input. What's amazing to me is learning to reject the output in favor of our own vision or conflicting ideas. If chatGPT helps people get past blank page syndrome and interact with their own ideas better to see the limits of what is returned contrast to what they think. That would be an incredibly useful tool for anyone trying to learn.
ropintus 4y ago
It writes better than me (I am an ESL) in writing, and that's enough reason for me to use it. It might not be better than Tolkien, but so what, 99.99% people are also not better than Tolkien and ChatGPT can add value to the life of these people.
sebzim4500 4y ago
No offence, but I am confident that you also can't write better than Tolkien or Asimov. Does that mean you should delete all your comments and stop posting?
- ulizzle 4y ago
  No offence taken; but where did I say that chatGTP should stop writing altogether? So it's just going to spew out a lot more mediocre writing than we already have, and self-driving cars are going to cause even more accidents, but it's all ok. Dissent against the dream of a robotic utopia must not be tolerated.
  - somsak2 4y ago
    Is there evidence self-driving cars cause more accidents on average than humans?
- throwaway675309 4y ago
  Honestly if you find chat GPT reliably reproduces the vast majority of your "insights", then whatever you have to say probably isn't worth posting in the first place. Unfortunately that still won't stop the waterfall of banal Reddit level comments from flooding the Internet.

Does anyone actually even believe that this A.I generated writing is any good? The standards seem extremely low. Can it beat Tolkien or Asimov? No. Then what is even the point of all this propaganda?

dqpb 4y ago

This is such a comical point of view I can't tell if it's sarcasm or a genuine question. Yes, I would wager that ChatGPT can write better than at least 90% of living human beings.

jfk13 4y ago
And yet I'd rather hear what the living human beings have to say. They may write poorly, but at least they have actual thoughts and ideas -- no matter how misguided or bizarre -- that they're trying to communicate.
ulizzle 4y ago
It's incapable of original thought, so absolutely not. Proof: can ChatGTP trigger y'all like I did?
ulizzle 4y ago
Can’t edit anymore, but notice how I’m accused of being ridiculous yet the numbers being thrown here are all absurd percentages like, 90%, 99%, and so on

swatcoder 4y ago

It's not good by any means, but neither is most assigned, casual, or rote writing. 10,000 students are writing some crappy essay on the Great Depression every day, and ChatGPT has probably trained on a zillion of these. It's optimized to produce those mediocre essays really efficiently, and that's very disruptive to how teachers have been working with students for the last century or so. The internet (and fraternity filing cabinets) were already straining this kind of pedagogy, but ChatGPT breaks it wholesale.

gunshai 4y ago
What I find interesting about your comment, is that while it can produce that mediocre essay. It can also produce a much better one. How? Well it's all about how you interact with it. But the majority of use as you said will be taking the first output given the input. What's amazing to me is learning to reject the output in favor of our own vision or conflicting ideas. If chatGPT helps people get past blank page syndrome and interact with their own ideas better to see the limits of what is returned contrast to what they think. That would be an incredibly useful tool for anyone trying to learn.

ropintus 4y ago

It writes better than me (I am an ESL) in writing, and that's enough reason for me to use it. It might not be better than Tolkien, but so what, 99.99% people are also not better than Tolkien and ChatGPT can add value to the life of these people.

sebzim4500 4y ago

No offence, but I am confident that you also can't write better than Tolkien or Asimov. Does that mean you should delete all your comments and stop posting?

ulizzle 4y ago
No offence taken; but where did I say that chatGTP should stop writing altogether? So it's just going to spew out a lot more mediocre writing than we already have, and self-driving cars are going to cause even more accidents, but it's all ok. Dissent against the dream of a robotic utopia must not be tolerated.
- somsak2 4y ago
  Is there evidence self-driving cars cause more accidents on average than humans?
throwaway675309 4y ago
Honestly if you find chat GPT reliably reproduces the vast majority of your "insights", then whatever you have to say probably isn't worth posting in the first place. Unfortunately that still won't stop the waterfall of banal Reddit level comments from flooding the Internet.