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I’m perhaps being a poor sport but - give away my phone number - for an AI content app - described as TikTok for text - from the Instagram people

I’m perhaps being a poor sport but - give away my phone number - for an AI content app - described as TikTok for text - from the Instagram people - without even a screenshot just all feels horribly unappealing. I don’t know why people will sign up, but I’m obviously not their audience.

tshaddox 4y ago
I can understand not wanting to interact with a certain company, but I don't get the phone number thing. There used to be books that listed everyone's phone number.
- pancrufty 4y ago
  Yea but those books just had your name and maybe address. In the current world your number can have your whole life attached, even whether you use a bum gun. It’s not the same
  - sprkwd 4y ago
    Also you could opt out of having your details in the book.
- shortcake27 4y ago
  It removes the ability to interact with the service anonymously. With a phone number, they know exactly who you are, and when your data is sold it’ll be at your expense.
zimpenfish 4y ago
- who may well just sell out to Facebook again after a couple of years[1] [1] No shade - if Facebook offered me $billions for my user generated content site, I'd be at the bank quicker than you could imagine but I wouldn't expect anyone to trust me with user content again.
- makerofspoons 4y ago
  I don't think there's any love between Zuckerberg and Instagram's founders: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-04-07/zuckerberg-s-jealousy-held-back-instagram-and-drove-off-founders#xj4y7vzkg https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-04-07/zuckerber...
  - BbzzbB 4y ago
    What's interpersonal love got to do with it? Everyone would love 9-10 figure checks.
- mdwalters 4y ago
  Let's just hope this doesn't happen...
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- misiti3780 4y ago
  it wasnt billions, it was 1 billion
  - zimpenfish 4y ago
    "$1,000,000,000 in 2012 is worth $1,292,703,642.08 today" Which is more than $1bn and therefore qualifies as "billions".
    - graphe 4y ago
      I can't believe your ego couldn't take that. $109 isn't hundreds of dollars.
    - prostanac 4y ago
      and $900,000,000 today will someday be worth over $1B, but we don't call them billions.
kristopolous 4y ago
Whatever, I'm in. I'm still startup positive. Let's see what they have cooking. It's easy to be a cynic
- twelve40 4y ago
  I agree that we should try to be more positive. But for every useful startup there are dozens of quibis, juiceros and many others you mostly don't hear about, but would recognize as dead-ends if you paid attention. So where do you draw the line? When something looks like BS vs. simply unusual/innovative. PG said that most good startup ideas are counterintuitive otherwise they would have been done a long time ago. But there are also a lot of counterintuitive ideas not worth doing.
  - kristopolous 4y ago
    I'm in finally. This shit is nonsense. It's just the "for you" tab of really awful systems incorrectly guessing and pushing spam on your in a Google news like interface. Goodbye artifact
- low_tech_love 4y ago
  Yeah, but it also makes sense to be a cynic, to be honest. We are overloaded with possibilities; there are many more ”amazing, next big thing” apps out there than we could possibly fit in a thousand lives. Plus, in a competition market, the real good things thrive through the criticism. Finally, why would you give a billionaire an easy time? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a socialist, it’s just that there’s really no reason to do it.
  - tucnak 4y ago
    Why give anybody hard time? For starting a company, for trying out new things...
zem 4y ago
also given that they want a phone number i don't trust this not to be mobile-only. which is why i never tried out instagram in the first place.
Kiro 4y ago
I immediately signed up. AMA.
- ddalex 4y ago
  Link to the app? Can't find it anywhere ?
  - Kiro 4y ago
    https://artifact.news/ https://artifact.news/
welly 4y ago
Also signed up. They can have my phone number. What are they going to do with it? Target advertising at me? To be honest, I'm a bit past caring about companies selling my data. They've built up enough of a profile of me in my 30+ years of being online, I'm not getting away from that. There's a multitude of my namesakes online who are much more interesting and successful than me and I'm pretty well hidden generally. This sounds interesting enough to me that they can have my phone number. In 10 years time I'll be living in a forest in a cabin, living off the land and staying well offline.
- graphe 4y ago
  That's assuming they unified your profile and your interests, politics, and purchase desires remain the same. I've received terrible targeted ads so either they're good at fooling me they're bad or they're actually bad.
blueboo 4y ago
It really seems like the audience is the tech gentry who cheer on Mike and Kevin to conquer a consumer market they all condescend to. The only reason to sign up is to have a savvy opinion about it. Remember the Facebook News Feed? Remember thinking, "gosh, they added to this without asking us, and I just wish we could have ONLY that! More News Feed, please!" Well, the Instagram Boys have the thing for you!

tshaddox 4y ago

I can understand not wanting to interact with a certain company, but I don't get the phone number thing. There used to be books that listed everyone's phone number.

pancrufty 4y ago
Yea but those books just had your name and maybe address. In the current world your number can have your whole life attached, even whether you use a bum gun. It’s not the same
- sprkwd 4y ago
  Also you could opt out of having your details in the book.
shortcake27 4y ago
It removes the ability to interact with the service anonymously. With a phone number, they know exactly who you are, and when your data is sold it’ll be at your expense.

zimpenfish 4y ago

- who may well just sell out to Facebook again after a couple of years[1] [1] No shade - if Facebook offered me $billions for my user generated content site, I'd be at the bank quicker than you could imagine but I wouldn't expect anyone to trust me with user content again.

makerofspoons 4y ago
I don't think there's any love between Zuckerberg and Instagram's founders: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-04-07/zuckerberg-s-jealousy-held-back-instagram-and-drove-off-founders#xj4y7vzkg https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-04-07/zuckerber...
- BbzzbB 4y ago
  What's interpersonal love got to do with it? Everyone would love 9-10 figure checks.
mdwalters 4y ago
Let's just hope this doesn't happen...
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
misiti3780 4y ago
it wasnt billions, it was 1 billion
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  "$1,000,000,000 in 2012 is worth $1,292,703,642.08 today" Which is more than $1bn and therefore qualifies as "billions".
  - graphe 4y ago
    I can't believe your ego couldn't take that. $109 isn't hundreds of dollars.
  - prostanac 4y ago
    and $900,000,000 today will someday be worth over $1B, but we don't call them billions.

kristopolous 4y ago

Whatever, I'm in. I'm still startup positive. Let's see what they have cooking. It's easy to be a cynic

twelve40 4y ago
I agree that we should try to be more positive. But for every useful startup there are dozens of quibis, juiceros and many others you mostly don't hear about, but would recognize as dead-ends if you paid attention. So where do you draw the line? When something looks like BS vs. simply unusual/innovative. PG said that most good startup ideas are counterintuitive otherwise they would have been done a long time ago. But there are also a lot of counterintuitive ideas not worth doing.
- kristopolous 4y ago
  I'm in finally. This shit is nonsense. It's just the "for you" tab of really awful systems incorrectly guessing and pushing spam on your in a Google news like interface. Goodbye artifact
low_tech_love 4y ago
Yeah, but it also makes sense to be a cynic, to be honest. We are overloaded with possibilities; there are many more ”amazing, next big thing” apps out there than we could possibly fit in a thousand lives. Plus, in a competition market, the real good things thrive through the criticism. Finally, why would you give a billionaire an easy time? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a socialist, it’s just that there’s really no reason to do it.
- tucnak 4y ago
  Why give anybody hard time? For starting a company, for trying out new things...

zem 4y ago

also given that they want a phone number i don't trust this not to be mobile-only. which is why i never tried out instagram in the first place.

Kiro 4y ago

I immediately signed up. AMA.

ddalex 4y ago
Link to the app? Can't find it anywhere ?
- Kiro 4y ago
  https://artifact.news/ https://artifact.news/

welly 4y ago

Also signed up. They can have my phone number. What are they going to do with it? Target advertising at me? To be honest, I'm a bit past caring about companies selling my data. They've built up enough of a profile of me in my 30+ years of being online, I'm not getting away from that. There's a multitude of my namesakes online who are much more interesting and successful than me and I'm pretty well hidden generally. This sounds interesting enough to me that they can have my phone number. In 10 years time I'll be living in a forest in a cabin, living off the land and staying well offline.

graphe 4y ago
That's assuming they unified your profile and your interests, politics, and purchase desires remain the same. I've received terrible targeted ads so either they're good at fooling me they're bad or they're actually bad.

blueboo 4y ago

It really seems like the audience is the tech gentry who cheer on Mike and Kevin to conquer a consumer market they all condescend to. The only reason to sign up is to have a savvy opinion about it. Remember the Facebook News Feed? Remember thinking, "gosh, they added to this without asking us, and I just wish we could have ONLY that! More News Feed, please!" Well, the Instagram Boys have the thing for you!