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The DIE agenda aka "diversity, inclusion, and equity" has no place in the business world. It is a neo-Marxist, fradulent institution created by academics to gen

The DIE agenda aka "diversity, inclusion, and equity" has no place in the business world. It is a neo-Marxist, fradulent institution created by academics to generate their permanent employment and the strenghthening of HR's influence, to the detriment of those who actually create value in businesses and organizations. >“Cutting DEI-oriented staff now, unless you’ve made really progress and can say ‘mission accomplished,’ is not a good look,” said Angie Kamath, dean at the NYU School of Professional Studies, who focuses on workforce development. “There are some real risks.” It's impossible to say "mission accomplished" when it comes to something subjective like "diversity and inclusion", which themselves are murky, amorphous terms. That's the _point_, the "mission" will never be "accomplished", which is why this is a sham institution to (attempt to) guarantee permanent employment, so I celebrate this news.

AmpsterMan 4y ago
I fail to see how trying to eliminate race as a barrier to employment for a capitalist firm is neo-marxist. Saying black people are systemically oppressed doesn't lead to the democratization of ownership of capital. If anything, I see the sort of "identity politics" to be something that capitalists of all flavor want! You either see minorities as useful scapegoat to keep your oppressed workers angry, or as an untapped market to be exploited if they only had more income.
- TurkishPoptart 4y ago
  >I fail to see how trying to eliminate race as a barrier to employment for a capitalist firm is neo-marxist. Saying black people are systemically oppressed doesn't lead to the democratization of ownership of capital. DIE doesn't try to eliminate race as a barrier to employment. That's the race-grifting component. We already have labor laws preventing discrimination in hiring.
Georgelemental 4y ago
I'm as opposed to this woke nonsense as anyone, but calling it "Marxist" is wholly misleading. Marx and his ideological companions saw social injustices, like slavery, through the lens of economic exploitation and class struggle. The DIE cult flips the script entirely; for them, economic inequality is a product of omnipresent "structural racism" and "white supremacy." Calling this delusion "Marxist" is just as incorrect as calling Donald Trump "fascist."
- goldenchrome 4y ago
  Regardless, there is a gigantic overlap between people who champion DEI and people who champion Marx and communist ideas.
- TurkishPoptart 4y ago
  Fair point and thanks for asking that question and giving me the opportunity to elaborate. I was saying "neo-Marxist" because the DIe agenda essentially takes Marxism and ctrl+f replaces "class" with "race/gender". Comparison: Marx -> Use the power of the state to seize power and economic opportunity from the "bourgeoisie" and distribute them to the proletariat to fix the inequities of history by any means necessary. DIE cult -> Use the power of the state to seize power and economic opportunity from the "privileged"[1] and distribute them to the "underprivileged"[2] to fix the inequities of history by any means necessary. [1]: aka "white-looking" men who can't be easily sorted into a "BIPOC" affinity group of "oppressed" persons. The jury's still out as far as where Asian-Americans, who largely out-perform and out-earn whites, for example, or white South Africans belong on this imaginary spectrum. Because "diversity" is inherently subjective, one's privilege rating is dynamic and can change at any time. [2]: aka maybe women or people "identifying" as a woman, people with maybe slightly darker skin (unless they "identify" (which shouldn't be an intransitive verb anymore) as such, immigrants, morbidly obese, trans-identifying, gay-identifying, mental-illness-identifying, two-spirit-identifying, indigenous-identifying (Elizabeth Warren tried this), plus whatever cool new identities will be discovered from now to eternity. And let's not forget that diversity of political viewpoints or opinions _never_ counts. (Yes, even if you grew up in east Germany, son/daughter of Soviet citizens whose parents were killed by Stalin and you are accordingly wary of new, trendy ideologies - when applying to work at a DIE-adhering corporations, you may be shoehorned into the "privileged" group, based on skin color or a subjective measure of relative "diversity" compared to current employees.
  - xialvjun 4y ago
    Then, who is the "underprivileged"
    - 4y ago

AmpsterMan 4y ago

I fail to see how trying to eliminate race as a barrier to employment for a capitalist firm is neo-marxist. Saying black people are systemically oppressed doesn't lead to the democratization of ownership of capital. If anything, I see the sort of "identity politics" to be something that capitalists of all flavor want! You either see minorities as useful scapegoat to keep your oppressed workers angry, or as an untapped market to be exploited if they only had more income.

TurkishPoptart 4y ago
>I fail to see how trying to eliminate race as a barrier to employment for a capitalist firm is neo-marxist. Saying black people are systemically oppressed doesn't lead to the democratization of ownership of capital. DIE doesn't try to eliminate race as a barrier to employment. That's the race-grifting component. We already have labor laws preventing discrimination in hiring.

Georgelemental 4y ago

I'm as opposed to this woke nonsense as anyone, but calling it "Marxist" is wholly misleading. Marx and his ideological companions saw social injustices, like slavery, through the lens of economic exploitation and class struggle. The DIE cult flips the script entirely; for them, economic inequality is a product of omnipresent "structural racism" and "white supremacy." Calling this delusion "Marxist" is just as incorrect as calling Donald Trump "fascist."

goldenchrome 4y ago
Regardless, there is a gigantic overlap between people who champion DEI and people who champion Marx and communist ideas.
TurkishPoptart 4y ago
Fair point and thanks for asking that question and giving me the opportunity to elaborate. I was saying "neo-Marxist" because the DIe agenda essentially takes Marxism and ctrl+f replaces "class" with "race/gender". Comparison: Marx -> Use the power of the state to seize power and economic opportunity from the "bourgeoisie" and distribute them to the proletariat to fix the inequities of history by any means necessary. DIE cult -> Use the power of the state to seize power and economic opportunity from the "privileged"[1] and distribute them to the "underprivileged"[2] to fix the inequities of history by any means necessary. [1]: aka "white-looking" men who can't be easily sorted into a "BIPOC" affinity group of "oppressed" persons. The jury's still out as far as where Asian-Americans, who largely out-perform and out-earn whites, for example, or white South Africans belong on this imaginary spectrum. Because "diversity" is inherently subjective, one's privilege rating is dynamic and can change at any time. [2]: aka maybe women or people "identifying" as a woman, people with maybe slightly darker skin (unless they "identify" (which shouldn't be an intransitive verb anymore) as such, immigrants, morbidly obese, trans-identifying, gay-identifying, mental-illness-identifying, two-spirit-identifying, indigenous-identifying (Elizabeth Warren tried this), plus whatever cool new identities will be discovered from now to eternity. And let's not forget that diversity of political viewpoints or opinions _never_ counts. (Yes, even if you grew up in east Germany, son/daughter of Soviet citizens whose parents were killed by Stalin and you are accordingly wary of new, trendy ideologies - when applying to work at a DIE-adhering corporations, you may be shoehorned into the "privileged" group, based on skin color or a subjective measure of relative "diversity" compared to current employees.
- xialvjun 4y ago
  Then, who is the "underprivileged"
  - 4y ago